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Title: Where is Margaret in 1851 & 1861?
Post by: littlefacey on Wednesday 16 February 22 13:59 GMT (UK)
Hello!

I am trying to locate Margaret Davies on the 1851 & 1861 census but can't seem to locate her anywhere!?

Margaret was born about 1845 to Edward, a Labourer and wife Mary in the Cascob area.
In 1864 Margaret married James Rollings (1838-1913)
She died in Kington in 1879.

Margaret had a brother Edward who was born in 1833.

On Margaret wedding cert & Edwards baptism both are recorded as living at 'Harbour' in Cascob.

Can anyone help find Margaret in 1851 & 1861? or even the parents? as that is my main goal!

TIA
Title: Re: Where is Margaret in 1851 & 1861?
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 16 February 22 14:07 GMT (UK)
Have you found Edward with parents in 1841?

Please post full details as you have not given any birthyears for parents

How do you know Edward was her brother?
Title: Re: Where is Margaret in 1851 & 1861?
Post by: littlefacey on Wednesday 16 February 22 14:10 GMT (UK)
Have you found Edward with parents in 1841?

Please post full details as you have not given any birthyears for parents

No I haven't found Edward prior to being married so as of yet I know nothing on the parents apart their names  ???
Title: Re: Where is Margaret in 1851 & 1861?
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 16 February 22 14:11 GMT (UK)
So how do you know Edward was her brother?
Title: Re: Where is Margaret in 1851 & 1861?
Post by: littlefacey on Wednesday 16 February 22 14:15 GMT (UK)
Only from the above 2 records. Both fathers named Edward, both Labourers & both lived in Harbour, Cascob which I now believe was a house rather than an actual harbour.
Title: Re: Where is Margaret in 1851 & 1861?
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 16 February 22 14:46 GMT (UK)
Margaret Davies - Illegitimate birth 1844 Presteigne
Title: Re: Where is Margaret in 1851 & 1861?
Post by: littlefacey on Wednesday 16 February 22 14:58 GMT (UK)
Possibily.. there are 3 other births around that time? I thought if I could locate either Edward or Margaret it may possibly give other siblings? or even more information on the parents...
Title: Re: Where is Margaret in 1851 & 1861?
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 16 February 22 15:20 GMT (UK)
Where are the family in 1871

A tree on Ancestry has them as Rollings & Rawlings??
Title: Re: Where is Margaret in 1851 & 1861?
Post by: littlefacey on Wednesday 16 February 22 15:32 GMT (UK)

Name:    Margaret Rollins
Age:    27
Estimated Birth Year:    abt 1844
Relation:    Wife
Spouse's Name:    James Rollins
Gender:    Female
Where born:    Discoyd, Radnorshire, Wales
Civil parish:    Walton Womaston
Ecclesiastical parish:    Hereford
County/Island:    Radnorshire
Country:    Wales
Registration district:    Kington
Sub-registration district:    Radnor
ED, institution, or vessel:    10
Household schedule number:    4
Piece:    2721
Folio:    97
Page number:    1


That one is the 1871 census with Margaret in
Title: Re: Where is Margaret in 1851 & 1861?
Post by: littlefacey on Wednesday 16 February 22 15:37 GMT (UK)
1881 census

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27J-PCG9
Title: Re: Where is Margaret in 1851 & 1861?
Post by: osprey on Wednesday 16 February 22 19:59 GMT (UK)
this could be the 1861 census for Edward born Cascob son of Edward & Mary, no Margaret in the household.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7XT-7CT

1851 for same family, no Margaret
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGD7-5Z8

 :-\
Title: Re: Where is Margaret in 1851 & 1861?
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 16 February 22 22:21 GMT (UK)
I saw these entries earlier but the absence of Margaret would indicate it's a different family.

The 1851 occupation for Edward senior is "farmer occupying 25 acres" - christening & marriage entries show him as a labourer

Title: Re: Where is Margaret in 1851 & 1861?
Post by: osprey on Friday 18 February 22 18:49 GMT (UK)
1851 census
Harbour, Cascob HO107/2492 folio 532 pg 1
Elizabeth Bradley servant 16 servant nurse b. Presteigne
Richard Cadmore widower 80 lodger receiving parish relief b. New Radnor
Thomas Bradley 4 child at nurse b. Cascob
James Bradley 1 child at nurse b. Cascob
Cascob Rectory
William Jenkins Rees 79 Rector of Cascob b. Llandovery, Carms
Thomas Bradley 44 servant in husbandry b. Norton, Radnorshire
Ann Bradley 37 housekeeper b. Pilleth

baptisms Cascob
15 July 1847 Thomas son of Thomas, servant, & Anne Bradley, Cascob Rectory
13 Sept 1849 James son of Thomas, labourer, & Anne Bradley, Harbour
27 May 1851 Mary dau of Thomas, labourer, & Anne Bradley, Harbour

marriage Cascob 21 Aug 1843
Thomas Bradley full age bach servant Cascob Rectory father Thomas Bradley labourer
Anne Davies full age spinster Cascob Rectory father David Davies farmer

1841 census Thomas Bradley & Ann Davies are servants in Cascob Rectory HO107/428/29 folio 1 pg 9.
The census page is faded, one resident at Harbour - Francis H???? ag lab

1881 still at Harbour
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKXK-V2YL