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Title: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: Jang on Saturday 26 February 22 05:24 GMT (UK)
The Keating family are living in Elizabeth, New Jersey in the 1880 census.

Mrs Keaten, female, 33, born Ireland, parents both born Ireland
Addy male, 2, son, born New Jersey, parents both born Ireland
Catherine, female, 1 daughter, born New Jersey, parents both born Ireland

The children's births (father Terence Keating, Kating, mother  Mary McCrank, McCronk, McCurk):

Adelaide, female, born 30 Aug 1877, bapt 1 Sept 1877 St Patrick, Elizabeth (mistakenly entered in the 1880 census as male)
Catherine Ann, female, born 4 Feb 1879, bapt 9 Feb 1879 St Patrick, Elizabeth

Terence Keating was born about 1839 in Ireland and died in Dec 1879, buried on 10 Dec in Mount Olivet Cemetery.
A report of his death:
Mr. Terence Keating, of Elizabeth, in climbing over a fence one evening last week, fell and his back was broken. He died of his injuries on Monday night. The deceased had long been a resident of Elizabeth, and was well known and respected.
[From the Friday, December 12, 1879 Trenton State Gazette, Volume: XXXIII, Issue: 295, Page: 2.]

I think this is Terence in 1870 but his wife's name is Kate, not Mary.
Tem (ie Terr) Katon, 30, moulder, born Ireland, parents both born Ireland
Kate Katon, 25, KH (keeping house), born Ireland, both parents born Ireland.

I can't find either of the children or their mother (who may have remarried) after 1880.

Jan
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 26 February 22 10:16 GMT (UK)
May not be correct person but there is an Adelaide Murphy buried Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Newark (not sure if same place as Terence Keating but Elizabeth is next to Newark)- died 1928 age 51 so born c1877-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:8BB3-B4T2
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/135269239/adelaide-c-murphy

1915 State Census Francis J. Murphy, wife Adelaide, etc. living in Elizabeth- Adelaide born Aug.1877 N.J. & parents born Ireland-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV9W-HQLK
1920 Census- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4YG-SY6
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: shellyesq on Saturday 26 February 22 19:07 GMT (UK)
Looks like the New Jersey marriage index & this newspaper article - https://www.newspapers.com/clip/96490888/marriage-of-cadden-murphy/ - have the woman Francis Murphy married as Adelaide Cadden.  Maybe that's another variation of the same name?

The death index has a death of Adelaide C. Murphy in Dec. 1928 in Elizabeth.

There is a Social Security application for Mary Adelaide Murphy, b. 5 May 1916 in Elizabeth, NJ to Francis J. Murphy & Adelaide M. Cadden, died 11 Feb. 2000.
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: shellyesq on Saturday 26 February 22 19:18 GMT (UK)
There is a Cath. A. Cadden who died in Elizabeth on 26 Jun. 1880 (the 1880 census date was June 1st) at age 1.  She was born in the US & her parents were born in Ireland - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FZJD-HJM
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 26 February 22 19:19 GMT (UK)
Adelaide Cadden-
1895 State census- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL8Y-9HRJ
1900 census- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9V3-9X5
1905 State census- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KMH2-KVP
1910 census- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MK13-9MR
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: shellyesq on Saturday 26 February 22 19:24 GMT (UK)
Another mention of Adelaide in the Wilkes-Barre newspaper - https://www.newspapers.com/clip/96492236/
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: Jang on Saturday 26 February 22 20:31 GMT (UK)
Wow, thanks everyone for the great info. Lots to work through here. I'm a bit confused by the mentions of Adelaide M. Cadden (marriage article) and Adelaide C. Murphy (grave) with two different middle initials - are they the same person?
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: shellyesq on Saturday 26 February 22 21:53 GMT (UK)
She probably used Cadden as a middle name after she was married.
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: RJ137 on Saturday 26 February 22 22:11 GMT (UK)

The death index has a death of Adelaide C. Murphy in Dec. 1928 in Elizabeth.


Elizabeth Daily Journal
Elizabeth, NJ
Monday, December 17, 1928

Death: https://www.rootschat.com/links/01rbo/
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: RJ137 on Saturday 26 February 22 22:23 GMT (UK)
Adelaide Cadden-
1895 State census- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL8Y-9HRJ
1900 census- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9V3-9X5
1905 State census- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KMH2-KVP
1910 census- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MK13-9MR

Elizabeth Daily Journal
Elizabeth, NJ
Tuesday, April 7, 1896



Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: Jang on Saturday 26 February 22 22:54 GMT (UK)
RJ137, thanks so much for the death report - it's great to have her parents confirmed. Such a sad ending. Thanks also for the Guardian's settlement - I'm guessing that means that once she turned 16 her guardian was no longer received assistance.

I need to go back now and find her mother's death - it must be between 1880 when she was living with her mother and sister and whenever Adelaide went to live with her guardian.

I'm learning so much about US records :-)

Jan
Qld
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: shellyesq on Saturday 26 February 22 23:05 GMT (UK)
The NJ state archives index has a death for Mary Cadden, age 45, died 15 May 1891 in Elizabeth.  https://wwwnet-dos.state.nj.us/DOS_ArchivesDBPortal/index.aspx

I found a will for Mary that mentions her late husband Terence, her daughter Adelaide, and Mary S. Bonnell was Adelaide's guardian and the executor.  It was signed 13 May 1891 (two days before she died, so perhaps she was ill), and Mary signed with an X.  Witnesses were Mary S. Bonnell, Russell Bonnell, and Howard Richards.
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: shellyesq on Saturday 26 February 22 23:10 GMT (UK)
This appears to have Mary with the Bonnells in 1885 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6BV4-63Z  Adelaide was listed as Bonnell, so maybe she was unofficially adopted by them prior to Mary's death.
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: Jang on Saturday 26 February 22 23:21 GMT (UK)
Oh wow, that's great info, thanks! Where can I find the will?
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: shellyesq on Saturday 26 February 22 23:25 GMT (UK)
It's here - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G93Q-Q9MM-B?i=581&wc=MQT9-368%3A338011501%2C338465201&cc=2018330
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: shellyesq on Saturday 26 February 22 23:30 GMT (UK)
This seems to have Mary's death record, but the year is off by 1 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FZHP-MM4  May be a mistranscription.

This has Mary Bonell's application for probate of Mary Cadden's will.  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G93Q-QV1D?i=73&wc=MQTZ-3WL%3A338011501%2C341404701&cc=2018330

Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: Jang on Sunday 27 February 22 00:02 GMT (UK)
Thanks so much. :-) I agree about the mistranscription.

If I look for the will of Terence Keating, died Dec 1879, would it be filed in order of death or probate? Would the probate database include records of the administation of his estate?

Edit - He died as a result of an accident so there probably wouldn't be a will.
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: RJ137 on Sunday 27 February 22 00:18 GMT (UK)
The NJ state archives index has a death for Mary Cadden, age 45, died 15 May 1891 in Elizabeth.  https://wwwnet-dos.state.nj.us/DOS_ArchivesDBPortal/index.aspx


Elizabeth Daily Journal
Elizabeth, NJ
Saturday, May 16, 1891
Pg.4
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: Jang on Sunday 27 February 22 00:25 GMT (UK)
Thanks again. It's interesting how the name evolved from Keating to Cadden. Sure makes for interesting research. :-)

Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: shellyesq on Sunday 27 February 22 00:40 GMT (UK)
Terrence's death record seems to be off by a year too - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FZJD-ZQL  Maybe the transcriber had some blurry vision. 

There are various Union Co. probate records here - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-893Q-JQ6K?owc=MQTM-9TL%3A338011501%3Fcc%3D2018330&wc=MQT8-S6D%3A338011501%2C341580501&cc=2018330
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: Jang on Sunday 27 February 22 01:03 GMT (UK)
I guess we all make mistakes  :) Thanks, I'll trawl through the probates just in case Terence did make a will.

Looking to see if Adelaide and Francis J. Murphy had any other children, apart from the Adelaide (1916-2000) listed on their headstone. Living with them in 1915 was Francis ? Murphy born Jun 1913. In 1920 there was Gerard age 6 and Mary aged 3 1/2


Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 27 February 22 11:02 GMT (UK)
In 1915 state census the son of J. Francis G. Murphy and I think the G. was for Gerard.

Glad that Adelaide Cadden turned out to be the one you were looking for  :)
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: Jang on Sunday 27 February 22 11:30 GMT (UK)
Thanks, me too - I never would have found this family without everyone's help  :) :)
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 27 February 22 11:33 GMT (UK)
Sometimes less information is better when filling in search boxes. I just used Family Search and put in Adelaide as the first name, New Jersey as place and births 1870-1879.
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: Jang on Sunday 27 February 22 11:48 GMT (UK)
Thank goodness she had a fairly unusual name!
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: shellyesq on Monday 28 February 22 00:02 GMT (UK)
Looking to see if Adelaide and Francis J. Murphy had any other children, apart from the Adelaide (1916-2000) listed on their headstone. Living with them in 1915 was Francis ? Murphy born Jun 1913. In 1920 there was Gerard age 6 and Mary aged 3 1/2

The article posted above about the elder Adelaide's death says she was survived by her husband and her daughter.  Maybe the son died some time after 1920?  I didn't see any definite matches on the NJ death index.
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 28 February 22 00:10 GMT (UK)
John F. G. Murphy died 1921 age 7-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:81L6-TYT2
Those initials match details in reply #21.
Buried Mt. Olivet-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:81L6-TYT2
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: RJ137 on Monday 28 February 22 01:20 GMT (UK)
John F. G. Murphy died 1921 age 7-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:81L6-TYT2
Those initials match details in reply #21.
Buried Mt. Olivet-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:81L6-TYT2

Elizabeth Daily Journal
Elizabeth, NJ
Thursday, February 24, 1921
Pg: 13
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: Jang on Monday 28 February 22 06:14 GMT (UK)
Thank you both for the death and funeral account. I noticed a few Murphys in the funeral party - must be related somehow. These newspaper reports are so useful in tracking down other members of the family.  :)

I've looked on Familysearch but can't find Mary. She was 3 1/2 in the 1920 census so born ca 1916.
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: Jang on Monday 28 February 22 06:19 GMT (UK)
Oops! Sorry, I just realised she is the one buried with her parents in Mount Olivet Cemetery. I need to draw up a tree so I can keep these relationships straight.
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: Jang on Monday 28 February 22 10:52 GMT (UK)
Looking for the marriage of Terence Keating and Mary McCurk/MGurk I found a possibility in Elizabeth New Jersey but I don't have access to US records. I couldn't find it on Familysearch. Would it contain the names of their parents?
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: Jang on Monday 28 February 22 12:25 GMT (UK)
I did manage to find it on Familysearch in 1876 as Terence King   :)
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: Jang on Monday 28 February 22 20:30 GMT (UK)
Is it possible to get a copy of the actual marriage certificate? Terence's parents' names aren't what I was expecting and I wondered that given his surname was mistranscribed, that perhaps his parents' names had been too - they match the names of the groom and bride ie Terence and Mary. Faint hope, I know  :)
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: shellyesq on Monday 28 February 22 20:53 GMT (UK)
The NJ state archives has it as Terence King too - https://wwwnet-dos.state.nj.us/DOS_ArchivesDBPortal/index.aspx 

The certificate can be ordered from that site.
Title: Re: Can anyone find this family after the 1880 census?
Post by: Jang on Monday 28 February 22 21:03 GMT (UK)
Thanks, that's great!