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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: sbell95 on Monday 14 March 22 22:54 GMT (UK)
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Hi all,
I have been trying to puzzle out the following family for some time...
Father: John NELSON
Mother: Bridget nee McKUEN/McCUEN/McHUEN (?)
They seem to have been Roman Catholic, as they baptised four children at St Cuthbert's in North Shields (Thomas 1861 [died same year], Anna 1865, Margaret 1868 and Thomas Robert 1876). I have copies of all of these from FamilySearch.
My ancestor is Thomas Robert, born 19 Dec 1875. I have his birth certificate, and Bridget's 1905 death (see both attached), but no other GRO records. The surname BLUCK seems to come up a bit (listed as godparents to Thomas' 1861 baptism, and recorded as Bridget's surname on my Thomas' marriage) - but I can't seem to find any link yet.
I have found the family in scattered census records over the years. John and Bridget don't seem to have formally married, and they were apparently quite poor. John's occupation is recorded as dock labourer on Thomas' 1875 birth, but elsewhere he is a coal miner or a hawker/dealer.
Any information about them is much appreciated... especially working out where John and Bridget came from, their parents, John's death, etc. And what happened to Thomas' siblings...!
Thank you!
Sarah
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Failure to register a birth only became a fineable offence in 1874 which may account for no birth registrations for the earlier children
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You haven'y included any details of where or when John & Bridget were born
According to the 1881 entry - both were 55 and b Gateshead which means Bridget was 50 when she had Robert Thomas??
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Sorry, I did mean that although I haven't purchased the certificates, I have at least found Ann (born 1864) registered at GRO. And first Thomas' death in 1861. So they did register at least some of their BDM events.
I haven't included much else about John & Bridget because I simply do not know and/or the information is inconsistently recorded. They are both 55 and from Gateshead in the 1881 census. They are living in a lodging house at that point. I don't think I've confidently found John in any other census.
I have Bridget and 3-year-old Margaret in 1871 in the household of William Irvin(?), she is 40 and born North Shields. Bridget is later in the Tynemouth workhouse in 1901, age 75 and born North Shields. So she really has an age range of 1826-1831, so yes probably in her mid to late 40s when she had my ancestor Thomas Robert! But again, missing the 1891 census for her.
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I'm having the same problem with census info
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The only other residence clue I have for Bridget is her son Thomas' Boer War registration in 1896, where she is listed as living at Melbourne Place, North Shields. But no idea if she was living there in 1891, or even the specific address to narrow it down in the census.
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Just found a possible 1851 census entry for a Bridget MACKUN(?) born Gateshead abt 1831, fruiterer, living in MITCALF(?) household:
Bridget Mackun age 20 lodger b Gateshead, Durham
HO107/2409/360 p 5
other household members Thomas Mitcalf, Mary Mitcalf, Mary A Mitcalf, Robert Mitcalf, Bridget Mackun
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And a possible baptism for a Bridget McCUAN in 1831 in Newcastle, parents Robert and Elizabeth(?):
Bridget Mccuan bapt 29 January 1831 Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, Northumberland
Parents: Robert Mccuan & Elizabeth Mcconnell
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1841 - look at Robert McKeow aged 30 with Bridget McKeow 10 if using Ancestry. Entry is on the top of the second half of the page but Roberts entry is repeated as the last entry on the first half
Piece 820 Book 13 Folio 40 Page 30
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Hmm I suppose that could be Bridget with her possible father Robert, but it says they were both born Scotland? Bridget at least is definitely from Northumberland... Earsdon is also some distance away from Newcastle where Bridget was baptised, and Tynemouth/North Shields where she is later living... but not impossible, I suppose. Then what happened to mother Elizabeth? And possible siblings?
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A marriage for Robert McKaown and Elizabeth in 1829
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N25M-P4W
Bapt for 1st child – Barneby McGuin 18 Jan 1830 Newcastle upon Tyne
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I have found and added Bridget's burial entry at Preston Cemetery, North Shields and have added to Find A Grave. If you are also on there and would like this memorial transferred to you let me know.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/237613855/bridget-nelson?createdMemorial=Yes
Entry 981
Bridget Nelson
Female
Age 78
Widow
Death occurred: Workhouse
Burial 7 March 1905
Ceremony performed by: Father (Haggarty/Haggerty?)
Unconsecrated plot 422
If you contact the North Tyneside Burial services with this info I think they would be likely to know the section the plot is in. I suspect it will be section J Roman Catholic.