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I m wondering why this child was baptised as Mary Ann worstall APPLEGARTH 1892
With parents as Thomas APPLEGARTH compositor of 62 earl st parish of st peters
Blackburn Lancashire
+ Mary Ann
by 1901 she was down as adopted daughter of Charles WORSTALL and Hannah nee Price in Harrogate
there must be a family connection but the only Thomas APPLEGARTH. I can find was married to a Mary nee.WILSON for 22 years according to 1911 census
What are the possibilities ?
Charles sister was called Mary Elizabeth WORSTALL If a married man had an affair could he give his surname to a child
Or could an APPLEGARTH single mother have the child babtized and added a fictitious name but kept the worstall surname to indicate birth name ?
The adoptive parents did not marry til 1896
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Is this the birth registration or are we looking at a different one?
APPLEGARTH, MARY ANN TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1892 J Quarter in BLACKBURN Volume 08E Page 402
This appears to be the marriage of the parents:-
Marriages Sep 1885
Applegarth Thomas Middlesbro' 9d 680
Taylor Mary Ann Middlesbro' 9d 680
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Hhmm well the original image of the 1885 marriage has Thomas' occupation as painter. Age 25, dad also Thomas, joiner.
Does any of that match with the Thomas that you have?
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There is a Mary Ann Applegarth registered in Blackburn RD in 1892 - mmn = Taylor. Are you sure that Thomas and Mary married in 1896? There is a marriage in September quarter 1885 where Thomas Applegarth and Mary Ann Taylor appear on the same page - Middlesbrough RD.
As for Worstall, I would imagine that there is a connection somewhere to either party. In my Yorkshire families I have many children who have a "family" surname as part of their forename.
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The 1891 census shows Thomas and Mary with two daughters Arabella and Annie. Thomas is a printer compositor.
Living at Earl Street, Blackburn, Lancashire
Registration district Blackburn
Piece number 3401
Folio 46
Page 15
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And Arabella's birth registration shows mmn = Taylor.
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Checking for Annie in the 1901 census reveals that Thomas is now a widower, occupation now Printer linotype operator.
Living at 25, Hodson Street, Blackburn, Lancashire
Registration district Blackburn
Piece number 3906
Folio 162
Page 35
I'll have a look and see when Mary Ann died.
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This looks like Mary's death
Deaths Jun 1892
Applegarth Mary Ann 31 Blackburn 8e 250
Was the baby passed on to a family member because Thomas wasn't able to look after her?
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And Annie who appears with Thomas and Arabella in the 1901 census was born 14 August 1889 and baptised 8 March 1908 - daughter of Thomas (Printer) and Mary Ann - St Peter, Blackburn.
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1891 - RG12/3401 folio 46, page 15 - Blackburn
Thomas - 31, Mary Ann - 30, Arabella - 3 and Annie - 7 months.
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The 1911 census shows Mary still with Charles Worstall and family but described as Mary Ann Applegarth. The Worstall has been dropped and she is referred to as a granddaughter.
Living at 8 St Marys Avenue Harrogate Yorkshire
Her death
APPLEGARTH, MARY ANN WORSTALL 26
GRO Reference: 1918 D Quarter in KNARESBOROUGH Volume 09A Page 185
The Worstall name has re-appeared here.
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Charles is down as a newspaper foreman in the 1911 census. Is it possible that Charles and Thomas worked together and when Thomas's wife died, Charles offered to take care of Mary Ann?
The connection therefore being work related rather than family?
Thomas is a printer linotype operator as stated in my earlier post which could be connected to newspapers.
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Mary Ann Applegarth nee Taylor died in Blackburn in June Q 1892 age 31, the same year and quarter that her daughter Mary Ann was born. Thomas would have been left a widower with a small baby and at least 2 other young children. He may have been unable to cope or maybe he married again, though I can't see another marriage for him. Charles Worstall may or may not have been the real father of baby Mary Ann, but it's much more likely that he was a relative who took on the care of Mary Ann, so the Worstall surname was included in her baptised name along with her inherited Applegarth surname. The FreeBMD registration does not include the name Worstall in her birth registration, so maybe that was added at the baptism. Do you have her birth certificate to check? In the 1901 census Charles and Hannah have children Annie and Charles Worstall living with them.
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Looks like Thomas remarried as on the 1911 he is shown with a wife Lavinia
Marriages Jun 1904
Applegarth Thomas Blackburn 8e 894
Salisbury Lavinia Blackburn 8e 894
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Thanks for all your answers
I.ll go thru them gradually
Yes she is still with Charles worstal in 1911
I don't think it says grand daughter on the original tho it looks more like gd than ad ;)
He's 48 so having an 18 year old grandaughter
A bit hard
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I think I had the wrong Thomas APPLEGARTH with WILSON. As his mother in law's name .
No I don't have original birth certificate it's quite a distant relative but my curiosity was peaked
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1911 - Charles William Worstall is aged 43, and he and Hannah say they have been married for 14 years, 4 children born and 4 still alive. Mary Ann Worstall Applegarth, is, I think noted as god daughter, rather than grand, although she could be Caroline Worstall's granddaughter. :-\
Interesting to see that Charles was born in Halifax, Nova Scotia and that Caroline was born in Ontario.
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It was adoptive parents Charles WORSTALL and Hannah Price who married in 1826
Regarding profession on baptism Thomas is down as a compositor
I wasn't sure what that was but thanks for finding the link to painter as a profession
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I think Charles WORSTALL. Must have been from a military family
I'm connected to his wife
Their son was in air force
Charles siblings were all born in different places .
Thanks for all the detective work .
I wonder if like you said the middle name was inserted in anticipation of the adoption and not a family connection
Poor Thomas had toddler Annie and young Amelia on his hands too
I
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The following may be of interest.
Listed under Marriages in "The North Eastern Daily Gazette" for Middlesbrough, dated Monday, 3rd August 1885.
"APPLEGARTH - TAYLOR. - On the 3rd inst., at St John's, Middlesbrough, by the Rev. E.O. Herbert, Vicar, Thomas Applegarth to Mary Ann Taylor, both of Middlesbrough."
Regards, Dod.
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Just a slight correction to #17 - Compositor is associated with PRinting rather than PAinting.
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Thanks Dod for extra information
& Bumble Bee for that last correction
I didn't note the profession of Charles WORSTALL in the censuses I looked at
He was a printers apprentice age 14
* In 1891 he was in army as corporal so proffession not mentioned .
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:) :)
Late again...sorry.
Not that it really matters-but don't you think that it would be very unusual to place an infant with an unmarried 22~yr old male??
Perhaps Caroline WORSTALL (mother of Charles) was the person who agreed to care for Mary Ann.
Maureen
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Yes Maureen that is more likely ." Adopted daughter" was a term used loosely in those days