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Title: Boy or girl?
Post by: Christianmpoulsen on Friday 06 May 22 09:11 BST (UK)
This is a watercolour supposedly of my x3 great grandfather when he was 4, dated 1849

I know boys wore gowns etc, but everything about this photo to me looks like a girl; could it be a boy and is his clothing usual for the time? What could the box be?

Thanks, Christian
Title: Re: Boy or girl?
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 06 May 22 15:04 BST (UK)
Unless he is wearing fancy dress, then I am sure that this is a girl - the bonnet.  :)

No idea about the box.

Title: Re: Boy or girl?
Post by: Treetotal on Friday 06 May 22 15:41 BST (UK)
It's never easy to ascertain whether it's a boy or girl, but I think it could be a boy. Girls had a centre parting and boys had a side parting. The item could be a family photo album.
Take a look here:

http://www.vastpublicindifference.com/2009/08/boy-or-girl-public-service-announcement.html

Carol
Title: Re: Boy or girl?
Post by: japeflakes on Friday 06 May 22 15:49 BST (UK)
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/03/20/breeching-boys/?safari=1
Title: Re: Boy or girl?
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 06 May 22 15:53 BST (UK)
Interesting
Title: Re: Boy or girl?
Post by: Erato on Friday 06 May 22 15:54 BST (UK)
For comparison, this would have been painted in about 1840.  The boy was born in 1838.
Title: Re: Boy or girl?
Post by: japeflakes on Friday 06 May 22 15:56 BST (UK)
Could the box be a book?
Title: Re: Boy or girl?
Post by: japeflakes on Friday 06 May 22 16:00 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Boy or girl?
Post by: Roobarb on Friday 06 May 22 16:45 BST (UK)
Could the box be a book?

My thoughts too. Maybe a bible?
Title: Re: Boy or girl?
Post by: Christianmpoulsen on Friday 06 May 22 18:27 BST (UK)
Unless he is wearing fancy dress, then I am sure that this is a girl - the bonnet.  :)

No idea about the box.
Yes, the bonnet did it for me, and the necklace!
Title: Re: Boy or girl?
Post by: Christianmpoulsen on Friday 06 May 22 18:27 BST (UK)
It's never easy to ascertain whether it's a boy or girl, but I think it could be a boy. Girls had a centre parting and boys had a side parting. The item could be a family photo album.
Take a look here:

http://www.vastpublicindifference.com/2009/08/boy-or-girl-public-service-announcement.html

Carol
Thanks Carol, that’s really helpful
Title: Re: Boy or girl?
Post by: Christianmpoulsen on Friday 06 May 22 18:29 BST (UK)
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/03/20/breeching-boys/?safari=1
Thank you
Title: Re: Boy or girl?
Post by: Christianmpoulsen on Friday 06 May 22 18:30 BST (UK)
Could the box be a book?
It could be couldn’t it. Is there some writing on the cover? My x3 great grandfather was called Darius, could it say that sideways?
Title: Re: Boy or girl?
Post by: Christianmpoulsen on Friday 06 May 22 18:31 BST (UK)
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Yes, I didn’t know this was the case around that time!
Title: Re: Boy or girl?
Post by: Christianmpoulsen on Friday 06 May 22 18:32 BST (UK)
Could the box be a book?

My thoughts too. Maybe a bible?
It could be. I’m now wondering if there is lettering on the front spelling his name, ‘Darius’ what do you think?
Title: Re: Boy or girl?
Post by: Crumblie on Friday 06 May 22 19:18 BST (UK)
The box could be either a musical box or a jewellery box.
Title: Re: Boy or girl?
Post by: Roobarb on Friday 06 May 22 20:41 BST (UK)
If it's a book I don't think there's any lettering on it. The focus of the painting is presumably the child, any obvious words on the book would divert the focus.