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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Breconshire => Topic started by: llangatwg on Tuesday 17 May 22 14:56 BST (UK)

Title: Bryngarn farm
Post by: llangatwg on Tuesday 17 May 22 14:56 BST (UK)
Hello. I wondered please if anyone knows where bryngarn farm cartref breconshire may have been situated please
Title: Re: Bryngarn farm
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 17 May 22 16:03 BST (UK)
What timescale?
Title: Re: Bryngarn farm
Post by: llangatwg on Tuesday 17 May 22 16:09 BST (UK)
My grandad was born 1899 and his brothers 1905 twins
Thank you
Title: Re: Bryngarn farm
Post by: Talacharn on Tuesday 17 May 22 16:21 BST (UK)
Same post here, with more replies.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=790050.msg6459904#msg6459904 (https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=790050.msg6459904#msg6459904)
Title: Re: Bryngarn farm
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 17 May 22 16:34 BST (UK)
Quote from: Talacharn on Tuesday 17 May 22 16:21 BST (UK)
Same post here, with more replies.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=790050.msg6459904#msg6459904 (https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=790050.msg6459904#msg6459904)

That's confirmed my thoughts. I've looked at the large maps for Cantref but can't find the farm. There is a hill labelled Garn Ddu to the east of Llwyn On reservoir.

Add - modern map here:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01rjr/

Gadget
Title: Re: Bryngarn farm
Post by: Talacharn on Tuesday 17 May 22 16:45 BST (UK)
Just south of Brecon and the River Usk is a hamlet called Cantref, then a little south east is a hill called Bryn. I imagine it is between the two, but on modern and old maps there are houses with no name.
Title: Re: Bryngarn farm
Post by: llangatwg on Tuesday 17 May 22 16:47 BST (UK)
Thanks all
Title: Re: Bryngarn farm
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 17 May 22 16:47 BST (UK)
Difficult to  find very much about the flooding of the valley ~

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llwyn-on_Reservoir

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/western-mail/20190812/281870120071702

Many of our valleys were flooded - north, south and central  :-\

Title: Re: Bryngarn farm
Post by: osprey on Tuesday 17 May 22 16:52 BST (UK)
With help from the other post, is this the baptism in the parish of Cantref?

27 Sept 1905 Ivor (privately twin) son of Evan, labourer & Annie Watkins of Bryngarn.

1911 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7JC-817

1901 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9B1-VNM

On the 1901 census the next 2 farms are Upper Penlan and Baily Helig

This map shows Beili Helyg close to reservoir
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01rjs/
Title: Re: Bryngarn farm
Post by: Talacharn on Tuesday 17 May 22 17:05 BST (UK)
A newspaper article has; a son of the late Mr Benjamin Price, of Bryngarn, Dinas, Llanfaes.
ADDED: Dinas is a little east of Llanfaes. It looks a large manision, so I am wondering if Bryngarn was one of the buildings.
ADDED #2: The A40 seens to have demolished the house.
South west, there is a hamlet called Cefn Cantref and several houses with no names.
Article: The Brecon County Times Neath Gazette and General… . 9th July 1914 . News . p.4 . 2,143 words. https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3857294/3857298/29/ (https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3857294/3857298/29/)
Title: Re: Bryngarn farm
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 17 May 22 17:24 BST (UK)
Quote from: osprey on Tuesday 17 May 22 16:52 BST (UK)
With help from the other post, is this the baptism in the parish of Cantref?



I checked before looking at the maps that the parish was Cantref not Cartref. Cantref village is also shown on the map link.

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/Cantref

Title: Re: Bryngarn farm
Post by: Talacharn on Tuesday 17 May 22 17:30 BST (UK)
It seems there are several hamlets called Cantref in the area.
Title: Re: Bryngarn farm
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 17 May 22 17:32 BST (UK)
Quote from: Talacharn on Tuesday 17 May 22 17:30 BST (UK)
It seems there are several hamlets called Cantref in the area.

I'm not surprised given what it means in Welsh  ;D

Title: Re: Bryngarn farm
Post by: Talacharn on Tuesday 17 May 22 18:18 BST (UK)
I smiled at a hill called Bryn.