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Title: Dursley Gloucestershire
Post by: annemac42 on Saturday 23 July 22 05:26 BST (UK)
Does anyone know about the Parish Registers/Bishops Transcripts for Dursley Gloucestershire? I am mainly looking at the period 1808-1815. The actual B.T.'s are on Family Search website up to 1812. However some of the tops and bottoms of the pages are missing. So hopefully the P.R.'s are available to fill those gaps. Thomas Gibbs (widower) married Ann Jones (spinster) in 1811. Have found 4 daughters born between 1815 and 1821. I am looking for Elizabeth who would have been born about 1808/1811. She could have been born to Thomas and his first wife. Elizabeth Gibbs married Thomas Elliott in 1837.
Title: Re: Dursley Gloucestershire
Post by: amondg on Saturday 23 July 22 08:01 BST (UK)
Daughters (4) so far for those searching  Amended

Sarah bap 26 March 1815
Charlotte bap 1 June 1817
Marianne bap 11 July 1819
Susanna bap 25 December 1821
Title: Re: Dursley Gloucestershire
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 23 July 22 08:34 BST (UK)
FreeREG has transcribed Dursley records but looks like they had the same trouble as you.
Seems to be a gap 1785-1811

I did notice that Elizabeth bapt 2 illeg children;
CHARLES HENRY Gibbs 10 Jun 1832
GEORGE Gibbs  24 Jul 1835, Buried 21 Oct 1835 age 3 mths

THOMAS Gibbs appears to be Buried 13 Dec 1837 age 86 (1751)
GRO has age 87
(you likely know this)



1841 Charles Gibbs, Elizabeths Son, is with his step-grandmother;
Ann Gibbs 60
Susanna Gibbs 19
Charles Gibbs 9****
George Harrold   2

1851 Charles is with his Aunt Maryanne HARDING

By 1861 he is married and in Wales

Trish :)
Title: Re: Dursley Gloucestershire
Post by: Capetown on Saturday 23 July 22 10:04 BST (UK)
Just out of interest.....On the Forest of Dean Family History - Gloucestershire Marriage Allegations and Marriage Bonds...

There is a generation back, a Marriage Allegation dated 1 October 1805

Thomas ELLIOTT over 21, bachelor, Labourer at Dursley
Hannah HALE over 21, spinster, residence: Cirencester

Sworn before Josh Washbourn to marry in the Parish Church of Cirencester.
Title: Re: Dursley Gloucestershire
Post by: annemac42 on Saturday 23 July 22 22:41 BST (UK)
Thank you everyone for your helpful replies. Most of it I had. Came across something interesting in my research. Lavinia Harrold, 3 year old daughter of James and Sarah (nee Gibbs) Harrold was a lodger with the Whyman (or Wyman, Weyman) family at the time of the 1851 census. Jane, (55 years, pauper), Mary Ann, William, Hannah and Elizabeth. The other Harrold children; Thomas, George, William, Mary Ann and Sarah were with their parents. Both families lived in Boulton Lane. Research: Jane Wyman's maiden name was Morgan, daughter of James and Hester (nee Wallington) Morgan. Don't know yet if they are related to my Morgan family of Dursley. My grandmother was Mary Constance Morgan, daughter of Aaron and Annie (nee Elliott) Morgan. I'll keep looking. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Dursley Gloucestershire
Post by: annemac42 on Tuesday 02 August 22 06:28 BST (UK)
Can any Dursleyians help me with another puzzle please?. Thomas James Elliott, 23, bachelor, machinist, abode Bradford Yorkshire, married Harriett Elizabeth Workman, 21, spinster, abode Cam, at Cam St George Gloucestershire on 18 May 1875. Thomas James Elliott's father is listed as John Elliott, a tanner.   However, the only Thomas James Elliott's baptism ca. 1852 that I can find is the one with parents, Thomas (on all his children's baptisms and censuses listed as a labourer) and Elizabeth Elliott, at Dursley on 25 July 1852. 
On the 1881 census for North Bierley, Yorkshire: Thomas Elliott, age 28, born Dursley, and Harriett E, age 26, are listed with their children Isabella F, Lily E and Thomas W. Elliott.
On the 1871 census Thomas was living with his parents Thomas and Elizabeth,  and sister his Emily, at Fort Fields, Dursley, aged 19, a machinist. He is also with his parents in 1861.
Any suggestions about John Elliott, tanner, being Thomas's father? Thank you.
Title: Re: Dursley Gloucestershire
Post by: Kay99 on Tuesday 02 August 22 07:04 BST (UK)
Looking at the marriage on Anc I see the father of the groom at Thomas Elliott??      

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01rqa/

Kay
Title: Re: Dursley Gloucestershire
Post by: annemac42 on Tuesday 02 August 22 07:33 BST (UK)
Thank you, Kay, that's a relief. I got the info from Freereg. Does it give Thomas senior occupation? Regards, Anne
Title: Re: Dursley Gloucestershire
Post by: Kay99 on Tuesday 02 August 22 07:35 BST (UK)
He was a tanner.   The father of the bride was John Workman

Kay
Title: Re: Dursley Gloucestershire
Post by: annemac42 on Tuesday 02 August 22 09:15 BST (UK)
Hi, Kay, thank you. Perhaps Thomas jnr thought the occupation of tanner sounded better than labourer. Or maybe Thomas snr WAS a tanner in 1875. I think it's Thomas snr who died in the Woodmancote Alms Houses, buried at Dursley St James on 2 January 1880, age 77. Assume too its his wife Elizabeth who died in the Alms Houses, buried 5 February 1878, age 69.  Regards, Anne
Title: Re: Dursley Gloucestershire
Post by: Kay99 on Tuesday 02 August 22 09:42 BST (UK)
It is possible that his father was a labourer in a tanning works?   Certainly listed as a labourer in 1871

Kay
Title: Re: Dursley Gloucestershire
Post by: annemac42 on Tuesday 02 August 22 11:26 BST (UK)
Hi, Kay, that's very likely. Most places would have had tanneries at that time. Not a pleasant place to work. Thanks again, Anne
Title: Re: Dursley Gloucestershire
Post by: Capetown on Friday 05 August 22 08:55 BST (UK)
Forest of Dean Family History Forum has a few ELLIOTT's listed who died at Dursley Workhouse

7 December 1866
John ELLIOTT - aged 71

Admitted from Cam buried Cam Chapel.

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25 December 1883
Fanny ELLIOTT - aged 16

Admitted from Uley buried Uley

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7 March 1890
Ann ELLIOTT - aged 47

Admitted from Dursley buried Dursley

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6 May 1902
Violet ELLIOTT - aged 3 weeks

Admitted from North Nibley buried Dursley

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14 June 1910
Jack Hebert ELLIOTT -  birth
Mother's forename: Lizzie

Admitted from Uley

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18 September 1910
Harriett ELLIOTT - Aged 89

Admitted from Dursley buried Dursley

Title: Re: Dursley Gloucestershire
Post by: Capetown on Friday 05 August 22 09:09 BST (UK)
These are the WORKMAN's - who were resident at Dursley Workhouse when they died.

12 March 1879

William WORKMAN - aged 62
Admitted from Dursley buried Frampton on Severn
Notes: No funeral expenses.

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29 April 1882

Thomas William WORKMAN
Mother's Forename: Sarah Ann
Birth
Memoranda: Admitted from Wotton Under Edge

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25 October 1887

Edith Mabel WORKMAN
Mother's Forename: Kate
Event: Birth
Memoranda: Admitted from Dursley

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13 December 1889

Emma Nelmes WORKMAN
Emma Nelmes
Mother: Kate
Residence: The Workhouse
Event: Birth
Memoranda: Admitted from Dursley
Parish Chapel: Dursley Workhouse

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2 July 1902

Louisa WORKMAN - aged 78
Admitted from Wotton under Edge
buried Wotton Under Edge
Notes: No Expense
Title: Re: Dursley Gloucestershire
Post by: annemac42 on Friday 05 August 22 11:27 BST (UK)
Thank you so much for that. It's interesting that there are unusual places you can get extra information from. Anne
Title: Re: Dursley Gloucestershire
Post by: annemac42 on Sunday 25 September 22 13:56 BST (UK)
 Hello again. Looking at the Dursley records again. Does anyone know if the Parish Registers are available for Dursley? The BT's images are on ancestry and on family search. But I am starting to wonder if the pages have been stitched together wrong... Basically on the one page are the following in this order. Burial 21 November 1749, Elizabeth wife of Richard Elliott. Marriage, 26 December 1749 Richard Elliott and Elizabeth Harvey. Marriage, 26 December 1749 Richard Elliott and Elizabeth Cornock. (Phillamore's reads 1749/50). These 2 marriages are a few lines apart on the BT's. Baptism, 11 May 1750, Thomas son of Richard and Elizabeth Elliott. I am finding the time frames hard to get my head around. Thank you if you can help.
Title: Re: Dursley Gloucestershire
Post by: DRH123 on Sunday 25 September 22 21:17 BST (UK)
Images of the Dursley parish registers are available on Ancestry. The dates almost agree with those you quote, the last is in January 1749/50. It is possible that they all refer to the same Richard. A widower with young children could be quite desperate. But as Thomas must have been conceived before November it would mean some very strange relationships.

There were lots of Elliotts in the area and at least one other Richard, with wife Hannah, baptised children in Dursley before and after 1749. So it's quite feasible that there two or three different Richards involved in those three records. Unless you can find a helpful will or similar it may be impossible to work out exactly what happened.
Title: Re: Dursley Gloucestershire
Post by: annemac42 on Sunday 25 September 22 22:07 BST (UK)
Thank you. Yes, it does look like more than one Richard. I'll keep hunting. Thanks again. Anne