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Title: Walter WRIGHT
Post by: garlands on Wednesday 03 August 22 21:47 BST (UK)
Wallace WRIGHT m May ADAMS on 26 Dec 1946 in Radford. According to their MC, he is a bachelor, aged 29 (i.e. b 1917). He works as an Acetylene Welder and his father is Walter WRIGHT (dec’d) who was an Electrician.

In 1939, living at 20 Hubert St, Nottingham, are:-

Lucy        WRIGHT     b 20 Oct 1888                                  single (?)
Wallace        do         b 12 Nov 1917      Welder                 single
John              do         b 25 Mar 1919    Tobacco Worker       -
Joseph          do         b 05 Oct 1924     Cycle Worker         single
Dennis          do        b 23 Jan 1927         School
Ronald         do        b 13 Apr 1928             do

In 1921, living at 26 Cambridge St, Nottingham, are:-
Walter       WRIGHT        Head    b 1883  Basford          Coal miner
Lucy                 do          Wife    b 1888  Nottingham
Annie              do              D      b 1909          do
William          do               S      b 1915   Radford
Wallace         do               S      b 1917         do
John              do              S      b 1919         do

The birth records for William, Wallace, John and Joseph all include the same Mother’s Maiden Name of WHEAT. Dennis and Ronald are completely different.

I cannot find a marriage between Walter WRIGHT and a bride called WHEAT, let alone one called Lucy.

Can anyone help, please?
Title: Re: Walter WRIGHT
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 03 August 22 22:19 BST (UK)

The birth records for William, Wallace, John and Joseph all include the same Mother’s Maiden Name of WHEAT. Dennis and Ronald are completely different.


Are they?

Births Mar 1927   (>99%)
Wright    Ronald    Wheat    Nottingham    7b   668    

Births Jun 1928   (>99%)
Wright    Dennis    Wheat    Nottingham    7b   668

Reversed from your list,  but correct as per 1939.

Is this Annie’s birth?

WHEAT, ANNIE       - 
GRO Reference: 1910  M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM  Volume 07B  Page 347


(None of which is any help I know)

Title: Re: Walter WRIGHT
Post by: garlands on Wednesday 03 August 22 23:36 BST (UK)
Thank you, but now I'm baffled. How can we both consult the '39 and get such different results? Yours certainly make more sense than mine.

If Annie's MMN is also WHEAT, then all the offspring have the same mother; again, what one would expect, but, who is she? I've had two instances of a couple declaring to the world that they are married when they most definitely were  not, so, is that what we've got here?
Title: Re: Walter WRIGHT
Post by: garlands on Thursday 04 August 22 00:15 BST (UK)
Thinking about my inability to find a WRIGHT/WHEAT marriage, as suggested in my previous post, perhaps there wasn't one. That might explain the (?) which I put after Lucy's description of herself as 'single' in the '39. I had expected her to describe herself as a widow but, if they were never married.......
Unfortunately, if that is the case, we'll never find her 'maiden' name!
Title: Re: Walter WRIGHT
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 04 August 22 01:28 BST (UK)
I’ve been trying to find Lucy & Annie in 1911.  Presumably as WHEAT but perhaps living with and taking the name of a man of another surname. Nothing.
Title: Re: Walter WRIGHT
Post by: Comberton on Thursday 04 August 22 01:46 BST (UK)
Baptism
12th December 1909
St Patrick, Nottingham
Ann Wheat
mother Lucy Wheat
abode Woodland Street

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Title: Re: Walter WRIGHT
Post by: garlands on Thursday 04 August 22 07:17 BST (UK)
Having spent 3 weeks trying to sort out this root, last night I completely failed to see the wood for the trees! We have 2 records of this lady's forename, and no fewer than 7 records of her surname plus, for good measure, her complete DoB. Unfortunately, thus far a search for the birth of Lucy WHEAT in 1888 has drawn a blank!
Title: Re: Walter WRIGHT
Post by: djm297 on Thursday 04 August 22 07:54 BST (UK)
In 1901  there is a Lucy Wheat born 1888 in Nottingham with her widower father William- also born in Notingham in 1851- he is a "Rag man". They are at 10 Long Stairs, Nottingham.

djm297
Title: Re: Walter WRIGHT
Post by: garlands on Thursday 04 August 22 08:06 BST (UK)
Thanks. I was just about to report the same record, having failed to find her in 1891.

The combination of names certainly is very rare, if not unique, amongst girls born ca 1888.
Title: Re: Walter WRIGHT
Post by: garlands on Thursday 04 August 22 09:16 BST (UK)
 mckha489

In your first reply, you conclude with "none of which is any help" - how wrong you were!

Thanks
Title: Re: Walter WRIGHT
Post by: garlands on Thursday 04 August 22 11:31 BST (UK)
Comberton

Apologies for not acknowledging your posting earlier.

That has to be 'our' Annie.

Thank you
Title: Re: Walter WRIGHT
Post by: Jomot on Thursday 04 August 22 13:54 BST (UK)
Not sure if/how it would be relevant, but there is a birth of a Lucy Wheat Tollington in Nottingham in 1887.  Her death is registered (FreeBMD) in 1890 under both Lucy Wheat Tollington and Lucy Wheat Wheat.

TOLLINGTON, LUCY  WHEAT     - 
GRO Reference: 1887  S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM  Volume 07B  Page 367

Title: Re: Walter WRIGHT
Post by: Jomot on Thursday 04 August 22 14:07 BST (UK)
Might also be worth looking more closely at this birth - year & quarter both fit:

ATKIN, LUCY  WHEAT  mmn LOVE 
GRO Reference: 1888  D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM  Volume 07B  Page 365
Title: Re: Walter WRIGHT
Post by: Dizzifish on Thursday 04 August 22 18:08 BST (UK)
Hello....  :)

Just to add to your Annie that Comberton mentioned......

I wonder how relevant it is to the baptisms taking place at St Patrick's Roman Catholic Church ?

Baptism -  NOTTINGHAM St Patrick R.C   
WALTER born 25 Aug 1908 - baptised 31 Aug 1908 - mother  = Lucy WHEAT, abode 1 Woodland St.

There is a burial for a Walter Wheat along with three other burials on https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch  - I haven't seen the details as I don't have any credits  - burial date 07 September 1908
Title: Re: Walter WRIGHT
Post by: garlands on Thursday 04 August 22 21:21 BST (UK)
Thank you all.

We know that 'our' Lucy was living with her father, William WHEAT, at 10 Long Stairs, Nottingham in 1901.
William was a widower, birth year 1851; occupation "Rag man, working on own account".
Both were born in Nottingham.

I've had a quick look for them in 1891, without success.