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Title: Soldier 1855-1857 Info
Post by: AngieToton on Friday 19 August 22 13:29 BST (UK)
Can anyone give me any info please, this has come up on searching my relative on Ancestry - I think this might be my relative but need to confirm it somehow -
Private Henry Mann born Radford, Nottingham 1837
1855 enlist
1857 discharge
81R R.H REGT OF HUSSARS
reg no 1851
Title: Re: Soldier 1855-1857 Info
Post by: Comberton on Friday 19 August 22 14:07 BST (UK)
Additional information in case it helps. Trade was butcher and intended place of residence was Newcastle Street, Nottingham.
Title: Re: Soldier 1855-1857 Info
Post by: Comberton on Friday 19 August 22 14:46 BST (UK)
1861 census

www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/22334222:8767?tid=&pid=&queryId=486b09c6bc94620a8efeec02603cc73c&_phsrc=pot34431&_phstart=successSource
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1851 parents at Newcastle Street
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=8860&h=10298412&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=8767&_gl=1*5kmvnj*_ga*Mzk2ODk0MDU2LjE1ODU3NzE1OTc.*_ga_4QT8FMEX30*MTY2MDkxNjY1NC4zMzYuMS4xNjYwOTE2ODU4LjAuMC4w
Title: Re: Soldier 1855-1857 Info
Post by: GrahamSimons on Friday 19 August 22 14:53 BST (UK)
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/british-army-soldiers-up-to-1913/
- this gives some help in searching
Title: Re: Soldier 1855-1857 Info
Post by: Kloumann on Friday 19 August 22 15:09 BST (UK)
1851 census. Henry Mann, Appr Butcher.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG6N-VPB

1861 census, Long Eaton, Derbyshire, Henry Mann, Butcher

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M76L-PQQ

1871 census, Long Eaton, Henry with wife Eliza & 3 children

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VB6T-ZBG

1881 census, Long Eaton, Henry with Eliza & 2 children

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27K-LJZ2

1861, possible marriage for Henry to Eliza Houlden.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2DJR-XDX

Added. Not Henry's marriage
Title: Re: Soldier 1855-1857 Info
Post by: Kloumann on Friday 19 August 22 16:26 BST (UK)
1867 marriage to Eliza Stenson.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2DKX-7W4.

She was the mother of George & Alonzo. Not sure who eldest son, Henry's mother was.
Title: Re: Soldier 1855-1857 Info
Post by: Kloumann on Friday 19 August 22 18:10 BST (UK)
Henry's probate, 1890. Beneficiaries, Alonzo Mann & Henry Stenson.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPLH-MXYR

Looks like Eliza was the mother of Henry, Jr. born M quarter, 1861, MMN Clifford.

Henry Jr's father was William Stenson. Partial tree on FS

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/G3LY-DG5
Title: Re: Soldier 1855-1857 Info
Post by: Kloumann on Friday 19 August 22 18:21 BST (UK)
1901 census, Long Eaton, Eliza, with son Alonzo, his wife, Annie & 2 children.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSJG-8YP

Partial tree on FS for Alonzo

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/LD5Z-75H

Alonzo & family on 1911 census

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7TX-C8

Alonzo's brother, George, died 1886, Long Eaton.
Title: Re: Soldier 1855-1857 Info
Post by: AngieToton on Saturday 20 August 22 16:56 BST (UK)
Thanks all - does anyone know which Army Regiment it was & where would he have served ?
Title: Re: Soldier 1855-1857 Info
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 20 August 22 17:06 BST (UK)
He was in the 8th Hussars and served only in the home islands. He did not serve overseas.
Title: Re: Soldier 1855-1857 Info
Post by: AngieToton on Saturday 20 August 22 18:24 BST (UK)
Lovely, thanks - he only served 2 years, was that normal ?
Title: Re: Soldier 1855-1857 Info
Post by: Jebber on Saturday 20 August 22 18:38 BST (UK)
He was discharged owing to a reduction of the Army. Also being totally unfit for  further service, due to chronic enlargement if the right testicle. Attributable to contusion against the saddle,  when having instruction in the riding school. The disability caused by military service.
His conduct was good.
Title: Re: Soldier 1855-1857 Info
Post by: Kloumann on Saturday 20 August 22 18:46 BST (UK)
Were you able to confirm that he was your relative, Angie?
Title: Re: Soldier 1855-1857 Info
Post by: AngieToton on Saturday 20 August 22 19:50 BST (UK)
Yes, he was my great, great grandfather - is it possible for you to send me his army records please ?
Title: Re: Soldier 1855-1857 Info
Post by: Jebber on Saturday 20 August 22 21:41 BST (UK)
You  must not ask for things from pay to view sites, it’s against their
Ts & Cs. I’m sorry.
Title: Re: Soldier 1855-1857 Info
Post by: AngieToton on Saturday 20 August 22 21:43 BST (UK)
Ok, sorry I didn’t know that, apologies
Title: Re: Soldier 1855-1857 Info
Post by: GrahamSimons on Monday 22 August 22 09:43 BST (UK)
In your original post you mention RRH - so I think Royal Regiment of Hussars. This leads to:
http://britishcavalryregiments.com/30-10H/10H.html
which suggests India and Crimea.
Title: Re: Soldier 1855-1857 Info
Post by: Jebber on Monday 22 August 22 09:51 BST (UK)
In your original post you mention RRH - so I think Royal Regiment of Hussars. This leads to:
http://britishcavalryregiments.com/30-10H/10H.html
which suggests India and Crimea.

His records confirm he was in the 8th Hussars.
Title: Re: Soldier 1855-1857 Info
Post by: ShaunJ on Monday 22 August 22 10:15 BST (UK)
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which suggests India and Crimea.

He did not serve overseas