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Isabel Mary Bateman born 1870 (c) Bristol, parents Isaac Bateman and Jane Thomas.
I have searched the Gov site and FreeBMD with no luck. There is a Isabella Mary Amelia born 1868 on both sites but different Mother. Isabella goes on to marry Samuel Wride in 1899. Found the family in 1881 but no sign of Isabel also cannot find the family in 1871.
Any help would be appreciated
helina
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1871 Isaac 27 and Jane 29 are in Somerset, no children
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Her marriage shows her as 25 yrs in 189l. Is that right?
Isaac is a Baker and Grocer and the witnesses are Isaac Bateman and Dora Bateman.
There is a marriage in 1895 (so earlier) for Dora Bateman, father Isaac a Baker.
Dora is at 1881 2493 /57/17 with parents Isaac and Betsey. (No Isabel).
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Mothers maiden name is Guest, I think.
There is a Mary Ann b 1870.
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Her marriage shows her as 25 yrs in 189l. Is that right?
Isaac is a Baker and Grocer and the witnesses are Isaac Bateman and Dora Bateman.
There is a marriage in 1895 (so earlier) for Dora Bateman, father Isaac a Baker.
Dora is at 1881 2493 /57/17 with parents Isaac and Betsey. (No Isabel).
Marriage Isaac Bateman + (on same page) Betsy Guest.
3rd q 1856, Keynsham 5c, 1162
Dorah shown born County Durham on 1891 Census.
Birth 3 q 1873, Chester le Street, 10a, 588, mother's maiden surname Guest
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The family are together in 1891 and in 1901, Dora is with her parents but is a married woman.
Maybe that is why she signed the register as Bateman.
Perhaps Mary A preferred Isabel as her name?
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This is the same family group as in 1881 and 1891
1871 census
RG 10/2554/52/23
Rodney Lane, St George, (Clifton R.D.)
Isaac Bateman, head, m, 35, labourer, Gloucestershire St George
Betsy do, wife, m, do, do do
Emily J do, daur, 12, do do
Arthur do, son, 3, do do
Mary A do, 1, do do
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Isabel Mary Bateman born 1870 (c) Bristol, parents Isaac Bateman and Jane Thomas.
What is your source for her mother's name being Jane Thomas?
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Isabel Mary Bateman born 1870 (c) Bristol, parents Isaac Bateman and Jane Thomas.
What is your source for her mother's name being Jane Thomas?
Think it's based on the 1863 marriage of an Isaac Bateman & Jane Thomas, however believe op has gone down slightly wrong track.
John
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Mothers maiden name is Guest, I think.
There is a Mary Ann b 1870.
Mary Anne's baptism in the Primitive Methodist Kingswood Circuit gives her parents as Isaac and Betsey and address as Two Mile Hill, which is the same as in 1881 census.
Her date of birth 26th March 1870.
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Mary Ann Bateman was born 26th March 1870 and baptised September 1870 - parents Isaac and Betsy.
If you look for Isabel M Wride in various records her age varies. She was older than Samuel, her husband, so perhaps that’s the reason.
However, one record does have a matching birth date. :)
*we crossed posts JenB.
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However, one record does have a matching birth date. :)
Excellent find. Amazingly we lived in that very same road in the 1970's :o
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The only Isaac Bateman who was a Baker and Grocer was the one married to Betsy Guest 21/9/1856.
Since Isabel Mary states she was born 26/3/1870 in 1939, and Isaac and Betsy's daughter Mary Ann was born that same day clearly they are the same person. Whilst with her family in 1871/1881/1891 census as Mary A. by the time she married in 1899 she'd changed her name to Isabel Mary.
Her birth entry was as Mary Ann Bateman, mmn Guest, Jun.qtr.1870 Clifton.
Annette
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Thank you for your assistance and advice which has been very helpful
helina