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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Montgomeryshire => Topic started by: alan w jones on Sunday 06 November 22 11:15 GMT (UK)
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Hello , I am trying a really long shot here looking for an Ann born in Llanwyddn in 1844/1845 . When i enter Llanwyddyn it comes up as no matches or unknown location , how do I view this village please
Regards
Alan
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Are you looking on Anc? This is a link to the parish in 1851 Enumeration District 6a https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8861/images/MGYHO107_2499_2499-1194?ssrc=&backlabel=Return&pId=15319508 You can look at the next ED 6b by changing the District at the top of the page
Kay
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Llanwddyn?
eg. 1851 2499 /696/9
John and Jane Williams and family
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Anns of the right age born Llanwddyn:
Parry
Pierce
Jones
Evans
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Thank you all , just have to try one of those names to a marriage to a Edward Humphreys now .
regards
Alan
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Is that Edward Humphreys the platelayer from Berriew?
If so, wife Ann(e) was from Llanfyllin per the 1871 and 1881 censuses (Llanwddyn in 1891 could be a mistranscription).
If you can find the children's birth registrations the online GRO index should give you her maiden name.
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I noticed on 1891 it was given as Llanwddyn and 1911 given as Llanuddyn
there is a possible birth of daughter Elizabeth in june qtr 1869 reg at Dolgelly , on the census her birth was given as Dyffryn Adudwy which might come under Dolgelly at that time ?
I didn't think maiden names were shown at that time ?
Regards
Alan
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Elizabeth was 2 in the 1871 census so possibly the birth registered in Dolgelly in 1Q 1869 mmn Evans.
Edward born Llanbedr circa 1871/2 was possibly the birth registered in Ffestiniog in 1871 mmn Evans
Thomas was born circa 1872/3 in Llanbedr so should also be registered in Ffestiniog but the only possibilities there are mmn Price or Rees
There is a Edward Humphreys/ Ann Evans marriage in Llanfyllin in 1863 but that seems a bit early.
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I sent off for that 1863 Llanfyllin marriage cert but it was wrong father of Edward so no good at all. Regards
Alan
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Just found Edward's birth from 1939 census is September 30th 1871
Regards
Alan
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It would be the December quarter , you would think, which has mmn Evans.
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There is this one
1861 4264/34/3
Anne Evans 15 yrs b Llanwddyn is a servant living in Llanfyllin district.
1851 2499/ 682/4
Ann Evans 8 yrs b Llanwddyn with mother Elizabeth and siblings.
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Just to add, there are other Humphrey/Evans births which would fit with that 1863 Llanfyllin marriage so may not be your Ann.
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I like that 1851 census which says she is 8 but almost looks like a 6 . Can anyone read the address ? I presume it is in Welsh .
Regards
Alan
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It's New House, Abermarchnad, parish of Llanwddyn.
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same family in 1841
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M774-5JH
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Thank you so much , I guess its under water now in Lake Vyrnwy
Regards
Alan
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the family were at Glanrhyd in 1841 and there's a burial in Llanwddyn 28 Aug 1849 Edward Evans 51 address Glanrhyd. New House is on the same census page as Glanrhyd so looks to be the Glan y rhyd here as Tan y fron is also on the same page. A couple of miles from the lake.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01rwt/
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Brilliant , thanks
Regards
Alan
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It would be nice to find Edward Evans grave in 1849 and also his marriage but looks to be before 1837 records
Regards
Alan
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possible marriage Llanfihangel yng Ngwynfa 5 June 1824 Edward Evans otp & Elizabeth Williams of Llanfyllin, consent given by Evan Williams (her age on census entries shows she would have been under 21 at the time) witnesses Griffith Evans & John Williams, all sign except Elizabeth.
The Banns for the marriage note Edward of Park.
Baptisms same parish
17 April 1825 Edward, son of Edward Evans, labourer of Park bach, and Elizabeth his wife.
21 Jan 1827 William, son of Edward, labourer, and Elizabeth Evans of Park bach - haven't found burial as yet.
17 May 1829 Richard, son of Edward, park keeper, and Elizabeth Evans of Park
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Thank you , I will look into these . Where is Park bach or Park ? I see in 1841 Edward is a farmer at Llanwyddn , did he move up the ladder from a " park keeper " ?
Regards
Alan
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Park bach here
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01rx0/
He may have been a farmer of just a few acres and just about getting by. His widow is noted as pauper on the 1851 census.
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Thanks , I didn't think that word looked like " pauper " .I am wondering if Edward's grave was one of those exhumed before flooding ?
Regards
Alan
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I think you'd need to ask the church about that. I doubt there would have been a gravestone.
The word does appear to have 2 ps but think it's meant to be pauper, the elderly widow next door has same word.
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I did look on " Findagrave " for a stone for Edward and also Ellis Evans died aged 14 { Ann's brother } who died in 1853 but no joy , perhaps the cost was against it .
Regards
Alan