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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Donegal => Topic started by: daljul on Sunday 20 November 22 12:33 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for details of this family. Ardrae County Donegal.
Mary Noel Breslins siblings are Patrick, Thomas, Peter, Ellen and Kathleen (catholic family)
Mary Noel Breslin married Thomas Davies in Manchester in 1955 and she died in Fleetwood Lancashire in 2016.
Please can anyone help to find her family in Ireland.
Kind regards
dinkey
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If she married TD in Manchester in 1955, do you have the marriage certificate and if so what was the name of her father? Whats her age on the certificate?
The 1901 and 1911 censuses are online free-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
Nothing coming up for the place called Ardrae. Might it be Ardara?
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I am sorry but I haven't got the marriage certificate.
I can't be sure whether i have have birth place correct as Ardrae, so it could be Ardara
I appreciate you trying to help
regards
dinkey
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I can see the death index and also an entry in Find a Grave but neither have an age or year of birth. Do you know how old she was on her death?
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Do you have years of birth for the siblings? Are any before 1920?
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Mary was about 78 when she died in 2016 which put her year of birth about 1938. I imagine her siblings were born within a 10 year time frame.
Sorry but I don't have more accurate information
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I am sorry but I haven't got the marriage certificate.
I can't be sure whether i have have birth place correct as Ardrae, so it could be Ardara
I appreciate you trying to help
regards
dinkey
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I can see the death index and also an entry in Find a Grave but neither have an age or year of birth. Do you know how old she was on her death?
heywood
DAVIES, MARY NOEL 1935
GRO Reference: DOR Q4/2016 in LANCASHIRE (591-1A) Entry Number 51453305
John
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This site may be helpful for some records, although the birth would not be online - Ardara us Glenties registration district.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
As you can see from censuses, there are lots of Breslins around Ardara
There are birth indexes here tom1958 - several Mary’s but not Mary Noel.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01ry3/
I would say you need to purchase the marriage certificate to find her father’s name.
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Thanks John :)
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Thank you John. I hadn't checked the death registers as I didn't think they had been updated that far.
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Ancestry doesn’t give a year of birth :-\
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Heywood.
FindMyPast doesn't appear to show her date of birth either
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There is an Ardrae in Carnmalin, up the very top of Donegal on Malin Head.
It may be Ardara though. There is a 1938 birth of a Mary T Breslin, mother Kennedy, in Glenties district, which would cover Ardara.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1408347 (https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1408347) has indexes up to 1958. You could look for the other family members.
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Are the other siblings you name in order of birth?
Did any of them marry in England? If so - when and where?
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I would say you need to purchase the marriage certificate to find her father’s name.
I concur with heywood - you need to obtain her father's name and occupation from the marriage certificate.
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I am trying to find out the chronological order of children
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Also, in view of dublin1850’s post re Ardrae, it would be helpful to confirm the birthplace.
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I am now in receipt of the marriage certificate for Mary Breslin and Thomas Davies on 7th May 1955 St Willibrord's R C Church Manchester. Mary was age 19 Cardboard Box Maker residing 43 Buckingham Road Droylsden Manchester. Her father is shown as Daniel Breslin Farmer. Witnesses were Kathleen Breslin (possibly her sister) and J Sprangine?
Any hehp to find Mary's birth details and her mother's name would be very much appreciated.
Thanks dinkey
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I think her mother was Catherine Agnes Breslin.
From looking at the familysearch indices, it looks like there are children Ellen 1931; Thomas 1932; Peter January 1934 Glenties; Mary January 1936 Glenties; Kathleen January 1937 Glenties; Patrick October 1934 Glenties without mother's maiden name.
12 November 1931 Daniel Breslin and Catherine Agnes Breslin, both of Doohill, Ardara. His father Peter, her father Thomas. It is on irishgenealogy.
Worth ordering the certs anyway.
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I think her mother was Catherine Agnes Breslin.
If it turns out that her mother was Catherine Agnes, then this was her birth record.
Born 19 February 1904 at Doohill N (North) [sic]. MMN Diver
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01839/1717650.pdf
Doochill North townland
https://www.townlands.ie/donegal/banagh/killybegs-lower/ardara/doochill-north/
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It looks very promising :)
Did Kathleen also marry in Manchester?
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Thank you all who have responded this is a great help. I have no idea where any of Mary's siblings were married. Probably best to look for them in Glenties first
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Thank you all who have responded this is a great help. I have no idea where any of Mary's siblings were married. Probably best to look for them in Glenties first
With you having Kathleen as a witness to Mary’s marriage, I noticed that there was also a 1955 marriage for Catherine/Kathleen Agnes Breslin.
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Thank you all who have responded this is a great help. I have no idea where any of Mary's siblings were married. Probably best to look for them in Glenties first
With you having Kathleen as a witness to Mary’s marriage, I noticed that there was also a 1955 marriage for Catherine/Kathleen Agnes Breslin.
If Kathleen married William McIntyre in 1955 here is her death
MCINTYRE, KATHLEEN AGNES 1937
GRO Reference: DOR Q4/2012 in BRISTOL (301-1A) Entry Number 50779219
John
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Thanks John. Yes I saw that.
I just thought that daljul knew more of the family history, perhaps.
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Again only a possible.
Peter Breslin married in 1961 Manchester Josephine Kilcommons
7 Breslin/Kilcommons children between 1962-71
Deaths
BRESLIN, PETER 1934
GRO Reference: DOR Q4/1994 in STOCKPORT (0131C) Reg C58A Entry Number 248
BRESLIN, JOSEPHINE 1929
GRO Reference: DOR Q2/2014 in MANCHESTER (006-1I) Entry Number 510301447
John
Added:
Josephine Kilcommons was born January 1929 Mountbellow, Galway, her parents Luke Kilcommons/Nora Sweeney who married 6.2.1922 Mountbellow, Galway
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Thank you for details of Kathleen & Peter Breslin. Hopefully, they are Mary's siblings, if so, it looks like they came over to England when Mary did.