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Title: James Carver Gooch - m - Ann ??? about 1845 Norfolk
Post by: ribbo39 on Friday 30 December 22 11:17 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

I have in my tree a James Carver Gooch married to Ann.

In 1851 in Norwich, James is a 28 Glazier & Painter born Norwich and Ann is aged 30 born Neatishead, Norfolk.

In 1871 Ann is aged 52 married, born Neatishead with son James but no husband.

In 1881 Ann is 63 and by herself still shown as married & born Neatishead.

I have had no luck in finding  a marriage of James to Ann  and hope someone can help.

Any assistance much appreciated.

Alan
Title: Re: James Carver Gooch - m - Ann ??? about 1845 Norfolk
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 30 December 22 11:34 GMT (UK)
Ann's maiden name appears to be Harrington (from the birth registrations of children named James Carver Gooch in 1848 and 1853).
Title: Re: James Carver Gooch - m - Ann ??? about 1845 Norfolk
Post by: emeltom on Friday 30 December 22 11:45 GMT (UK)
There is a marriage Sep 1843 Norwich 13 336 between Ann Harrington and a William Gooch.

Not sure if this is an error or not.
Title: Re: James Carver Gooch - m - Ann ??? about 1845 Norfolk
Post by: The Yokel on Friday 30 December 22 15:37 GMT (UK)
According to the Marriage Locator, the marriage 'emeltom' has was at Heigham (Norwich Reg Dist)

http://marriage-locator.co.uk/cgi-bin/ML_search.cgi?year=1843&qtr=3&vol=13&page=336&search=search
Title: Re: James Carver Gooch - m - Ann ??? about 1845 Norfolk
Post by: Ian Nelson on Friday 30 December 22 16:52 GMT (UK)
My father's mother's name was Gooch and most of them that I have traced so far all came from around Great Ryburgh near Fakenham, however they also had a Norwich connection but in my researches I've discovered that Gooch is a very common name in Norfolk and Suffolk.
I will delve into the records I have salted away and see if there is a connection.
cheers, Ian
Title: Re: James Carver Gooch - m - Ann ??? about 1845 Norfolk
Post by: ribbo39 on Saturday 31 December 22 09:43 GMT (UK)
Thank you all for your help.

I had seen the marriage of Ann Harrington to William Gooch but discarded it due to his name.

The marriage locator suggesting Heigham (Norwich) seemed a good choice as I understand  the registers were destroyed during the war. The fact it was 1843 seems about right as the first baptism I found was in 1844 but it refers to the marriage "emoltom" found and the reference nos. imply it was  William.

I have found some children's birth registrations, as "Shaun" lists.

Ann consistently refers to Neatishead as her place of birth but looking thru the original registers I failed to find her baptism although there were a few "Harrington"s shown.

Also I have not found James in either the 1861,71,81 and later, so did James die early & when/where or did they split up - we shall probably never know.

To Ian Nelson - I  only a few "Gooch"s in my tree most of whom came from Norfolk but there is a smaller group I have in Suffolk.

Once again many thanks  and I wish all an enjoyable and prosperous new year.

Alan
Title: Re: James Carver Gooch - m - Ann ??? about 1845 Norfolk
Post by: amondg on Saturday 31 December 22 10:17 GMT (UK)
Wesleyan Methodist Church New Buckenham

James Carver Gooch baptized 20 July 1823 son of Samuel Gooch and Sarah. Born 9 July 1823

Father was a cordwainer

Title: Re: James Carver Gooch - m - Ann ??? about 1845 Norfolk
Post by: ribbo39 on Saturday 31 December 22 10:25 GMT (UK)
Hi amondg,

Thanks for that entry -  after 1851 he seems to dis-appear.


Alan
Title: Re: James Carver Gooch - m - Ann ??? about 1845 Norfolk
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 31 December 22 10:35 GMT (UK)
Entry has Mother as Sarah Carver on Bapt :)
Title: Re: James Carver Gooch - m - Ann ??? about 1845 Norfolk
Post by: ribbo39 on Saturday 31 December 22 23:15 GMT (UK)
Thank you trish1120,

Yes - I had recorded that from the New Buckenham (Weslyan) Non-Conformist  register, born Hempnall.

Happy New  Year to all.

Alan
Title: Re: James Carver Gooch - m - Ann ??? about 1845 Norfolk
Post by: amondg on Sunday 01 January 23 02:24 GMT (UK)
His brother George Carver Gooch went to America with his family, could James have gone as well but Ann did not want to go?
Title: Re: James Carver Gooch - m - Ann ??? about 1845 Norfolk
Post by: amondg on Sunday 01 January 23 02:29 GMT (UK)
Ann was slightly older than James could she have been a widow when and if they married?

Judging by 1851 census they "married" about about 1845 and Ann would have been 26/27 in age she is older in later census so possibly 28/29.


I would get the marriage certificate for William Gooch to Ann Harrington 1843 and see if it's a transcription error.
Title: Re: James Carver Gooch - m - Ann ??? about 1845 Norfolk
Post by: amondg on Sunday 01 January 23 02:51 GMT (UK)
Ref: Court of Probate 1868 - IR27/365

Samuel Gooch of Norwich, probate by Rev. Robert Church.

Rev. Robert Church was James and George's sister Eliza Maria Gooch' husband they married 1846.

Obtain a copy and see if there are additional details.

Norfolk Records Office, Norwich.

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