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Hi
I'm looking for links to/from the Trowell family of Boughton Monchelsea, Kent.
More specifically from/to the family of:
William Trowell (b1813) and Rebecca Davis (b1813, Lydd) Their children were:
Mary (b1837)
Stephen (b1840)
Louisa (b1847)
Edward (b1848)
Elizabeth (b1852)
I know Stephen was married twice, first to Elizabeth ?? around 1858-1862 and they produced 6 children:
Susannah (b1863 - Boughton Monchelsea)
Edward (b1865 - Aylesford)
Alice (b1869 - East Malling)
Thomas (b1873 - East Malling)
Jesse (b1876 - East Malling)
Kate (b1879 - East Malling)
Elizabeth died 1881 and Edward later married an Agnes Newman?? (b1838 East Farleigh). At the time of the 1901 census Stephen and Agnes were living in East Malling with Stephen's son, Edward and Agnes's 2 children, Percival H Newman (b1875 - Maidstone) and Rhoda A Newman (b1880 - Barring).
William and Rebecca's daughter Louisa is my Great Grandmother on my mother's side. She married a Scotsman, William Young in Maidstone in 1871 and produced 5 children with all but their last one, a daughter named Jeanie (b1892 - Glasgow) and my Grandmother, born in Kent. William was an Engineer's Assistant at the time of their marriage and I am assuming the move up to Scotland was for William to find work in the booming railway or shipbuilding industries.
If any of this rings bells with anyone I would be delighted to hear from you.
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Have you tried searching this website?
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mrawson/
There are several TROWELLS mentioned
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Thanks for tip. Looks like it will be extremely helpful. Just my luck though that the Trowell link doesn't work presently. I have reported it and therefore look forward to its restoration soon.
:)
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Hi Knarf
Stephen wasn't married in 1861:
1861
Church St, Boughton Monchelsea
Rebecca TROWEL head wid 48 b.Lydd
Mary dau unm 24 housekeeper b.Boughton Monchelsea
Stephen son unm 21 lab b.BM
Louisa dau 13 b.BM
Edward son 9 b.BM
Elizabeth dau 7 b.BM
RG9/499 folio 18 page 6
and there is a Stephen TROWEL marriage 1862 http://extranet3.kent.gov.uk/sp/rois/marriagesearch.cfm which might fit
Casalguidi
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Hi
Thanks for your help. I am sure the marraige is the correct one and will order the certificate in due course, for my records.
;D
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Hello
I have a JUDITH TROWELL who married JOHN WINDER in abt. 1760.
John remarried in 1770
Alisonkate
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Hi again,
Ok I have now established that Stephen Trowell (born 1840) married Elizabeth Cackett in 1862 (Vol2a Pg 874). They had at least 6 children that I know about ie:
Susannah (circa 1863 - BM)
Edward (circa 1865 - Aylesford)
Alice (circa 1869 East Malling )
Thomas (circa 1873 - East Malling)
Stephen Jesse (circa 1876 - East Malling) and
Kate (circa 1878 - East Malling).
At the time of the 1881 census the family were living at The Rocks, East Malling.
I would know like to know what occupations are shown against each family member in the 1891 census? Also, are they still at The Rocks, East Malling? I am assuming the younger children will still be living at home in 1891.
I also know that Alice married a William Turrell in 1893 so would like to know where they are in 1901 and also their occupations, if possible.
thanks in advance,
Frank
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This looks like the remains of the family in 1891 RG12/668 folio153 page 16
living Mill St East Malling
Stephen TROWEL papermaker 51 born B. Monchelsea
Agnes wife 52 born East Farleigh
James W CARR stepson 21 grocer's asst Maidstone
Percival NEWMAN stepson 16 paper mill lab Maidstone
Stephen J TROWEL 15 paper mill lab E Malling
Kate TROWELL 12 scholar East Malling
Rhoda A NEWMAN stepdau 11 Barming
Charles NUTTALL 31 lodger fitter Bolton Lancs
Joseph LANE 40 lodger fitter Preston Lancs
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Hi Frank
The 1871 census adds a little more to the family ...............
1871
10 The Rocks, East Malling, Kent
Stephen TROWELL head mar 31 stoker paper mill b.Boughton Monchelsea
Elizabeth wife 29 b.Ruckinge Kent
Susannah E dau 8 b.Boughton Monchelsea
Edward son 6 b.Aylesford
Alice A dau 2 b.East Malling
Louisa A M (dau crossed out and then combined with Beatrice dau age 4m b.East Malling on the following line so not clear if they are actually the same person of whether they were twins etc.?)
Henry CACKETT brother in law 12 b.Chart Sutton Kent
Rg10/916 folio 7 page 6
Casalguidi
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These look to possibly be two of the two children in 1891 ...............
1891
22 Sandling Road, Maidstone, Kent
George W WATSON head mar 37 basket maker b.Yarmouth Norfolk
Mary Ann wife 37 b.Sligo Ireland
Ada C dau unm 16 b.Chatham Kent
Edward TROWELL boarder unm 26 basket maker b.Aylesford Kent
Rg12/690 folio 64 page 4
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1891
Mill? St, East Malling, Kent
Maurice GIBBON head mar 46 ag lab b.Mereworth Kent
Mary A wife 41 b.Great Neasley?? Oxfordshire
George H son 14 ag lab b.West Malling Kent
Thomas TROWEL lodger unm 18 ag lab b.East Malling
RG12/668 folio 155 page 20
Casalguidi
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And the girls ...................
1891
Mill St, East Malling, Kent
William A (?)RESSFIELD head mar 27 paper mill (engine driver stat.?) b.East Malling
Emily S wife 28 b.Addington Kent
William L son 4 b.East Malling
Cecilia H dau 3 b.East Malling
Alice E dau 1 b.East Malling
Alice A TROWELL lodger unm 22 paper mill (single sheet layer) b.East Malling
Susannah E TROWELL lodger unm 27 paper mill (sorter) b.Boughton Monchelsea
Rg12/668 folio 152 page 13
Casalguidi
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1901 ............. Mill St, East Malling
Alice A TURRELL head wid 32 paper mill glazier b.East Malling
Hilda E dau 7 b.East Malling
Susannah E TROWELL sister unm 37 paper mill glazier b.Boughton Monchelsea
Frederick G W TROWELL nephew 9 b.East Malling
Rg13/741 folio 156 page 29
Casalguidi
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A big thank you to bearkat and Casalguidi for more info than I expected.
;D
Frank
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Hi
I was extremely grateful for all the help given in this thread already but I have come across a grey area now which I think could possibly be solved by reference to the 1851 Census.
Referring back to my original post which started this thread:
There is a questionmark over whether William Trowell (bc1813) is the first or second husband of Rebecca. Another person resraching the same line has a copy of Rebecca's daughter, Louisa, marraige certificate which names her father as Edward not William. However, the online records at Ancestry give Rebecca's marriage as 1839 to a William Trowell. Can anybody tell me what the 1851 census shows?
thanks again in advance,
Frank
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1851 census Church St., Boughton Monchelsea
HO107/1616 folio 379 page 5
Rebcca TROWELL head married 40 born Lydd
children:
Walter 13
Sophia 8
Louisa 4
Edward 1
all born Boughton Monchelsea
So where was her husband?
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1841 cenus Church St., Boughton Monchelsea
HO107/456/12 foilo 21 page 4
Edward 35 Horse master or Stone mason
Rebecca 30
Mary 8
Walter 4
Stephen 1
all born Kent
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Thanks again Bearkat, you've just saved alot of head scratching ;)
Now where was Edward (the father in 1851) ???
cheers
Frank
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How about this one?
Edward TROWD (I think it could be TROWEL) 47, stone mason, born Boughton, Kent, a visitor in the household of Thomas LAWRENCE, 36, a beershopkeeper at 52 New Road, Gravesend.
others:
wife Elizabeth 33
William 4 son
Fanny 2 wks dau
visitor James WINDERLY 30 mar stone mason Westminster
visitor John PARKER 27 wid Penshurst
visitor Ann BET**T 29 mar Wychurch Hants
HO107/1608 folio 109 page 39
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Bearkat
You are a real star ;D
Thank you so much for solving this one for me and again for all your help.
kind regards,
Frank
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This looks like the remains of the family in 1891 RG12/668 folio153 page 16
living Mill St East Malling
Stephen TROWEL papermaker 51 born B. Monchelsea
Agnes wife 52 born East Farleigh
James W CARR stepson 21 grocer's asst Maidstone
Percival NEWMAN stepson 16 paper mill lab Maidstone
Stephen J TROWEL 15 paper mill lab E Malling
Kate TROWELL 12 scholar East Malling
Rhoda A NEWMAN stepdau 11 Barming
Charles NUTTALL 31 lodger fitter Bolton Lancs
Joseph LANE 40 lodger fitter Preston Lancs
Hi,
I believe this Stepehn Jesse Trowel was my great grandfather. Sadly I don't know a huge amount about him. He died shortly after I was born in 1960. He was a regular in the army and served with the 14th Hussars in Ireland and South Africa in the 2nd Boer War. In the WW1 he was in the military police. He spend the end of his life living with my grandmother having tried and failed to get a place with the Chelsea Pensioners. My mum told me he was a short man with red hair and a temper to match.
His daughter Jessie was my grandmother although I don't know who her mother was. Jessie married Fred Ball and they had 3 children Irene Jessie (my mum born 5/6/1928), Fred and Susan
Regards
Jane
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Hi Frank
Thanks for your message for some reason there is an error whenever I try and reply to it directly so Im trying this root and hope it gets to you!
Stephen Jesse was certainly my great grandfather I have a photo of him wearing his war medals taken in the late 1950's at Jessie's house
Jessie Caroline Victoria Trowel is indeed my grandmother. Many thanks for supplying her mothers name. I think she was an only child as I was never aware of any aunts or uncles from her side. Although they were not a close family and through some long ago family disputes sadly we now have no contact with that side of the family at all. In fact I don't even know when Jessie died.
Jessie married Frederick Ernest Ball who worked as a printer in Fetter lane in London. Jessie served as a postlady in WW2 but otherwise ran the home and was the unofficial midwife, undertaker and vet to the people around where they lived in Bonham Road Dagenham.
They had three children
Irene Jessie 5/6/28 - 30/12/93 she married Albert George Dawson and they lived in Highfield Close Romford then Cedar Hall Gardens Thundersley.
Frederick E (I think that's E for Ernest) December 1933 - he worked for the oil industry and travelled all over the world and died young I think in the early 70's but can't find out when.
Susan M born Sep 47
Frederick Ernest snr died around 1981 but I don't know exactly when
Thanks for you help I only started looking up the family tree yesterday so I haven't got very far but the information I've found her helps a lot.
Regards
Jane