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Title: John Postins
Post by: tomm on Tuesday 24 January 23 15:36 GMT (UK)

Hi Folks
Looking for your help in finding any info on the above person. This is what I've found so far!
B:About 1766 Kidderminster Worcestershire, England.
D:1857 Kidderminster, Worcestershire, , England.
Marriage. 26 Dec 1785. Aston Juxta Birmingham,Warwick,England.
Spouse.  Given as   Elizabeth Burnridge
I am unable to find any info on this lady at all. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks and Regards
Tomm
Title: Re: John Postins
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 24 January 23 16:33 GMT (UK)
You give his birth place as Kidderminster, do you have proof of that
Title: Re: John Postins
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 24 January 23 16:39 GMT (UK)

D:1857 Kidderminster, Worcestershire, , England.


If this is the death you mean it was for an infant
POSTINS, JOHN    age   0 
GRO Reference: 1857  March Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER  Volume 06C  Page 137

ADDED
Possible birth for that child
POSTINS, JOHN       mmn RUSSELL 
GRO Reference: 1856  Sept Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER  Volume 06C  Page 210
 
Title: Re: John Postins
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Tuesday 24 January 23 17:08 GMT (UK)
Could you please provide information on John and Elizabeth's children (assuming they had some)? What were their names and when/where were they baptised?

Queenie  :)
Title: Re: John Postins
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Tuesday 24 January 23 17:12 GMT (UK)
Regarding John's wife, Elizabeth, I'm wondering if her surname was actually Burbridge. I cannot find a single Burnridge in Warwickshire or Worcestershire, but there are lots of Burbridges.

Queenie  :)

EDIT: There is an Elizabeth baptised in 1764 to John & Elizabeth Burbridge in Worcester.
Title: Re: John Postins
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 25 January 23 06:26 GMT (UK)
I was going to say if he died 1857 then he would appear on the 1841/1851 Census.
Which he doesn't.
He would also be in his 90's by 1857.

( I noticed a Tree has those dates but as found are incorrect)

I can see 2 bapt Kidderminster Parents John/Elizabeth
WILLIAM Postin 26 February 1786
JAMES Postins  10 October 1787
May be others elsewhere

Trish :)
Title: Re: John Postins
Post by: tomm on Wednesday 25 January 23 13:13 GMT (UK)
Hello to you all.

It would appear that the info that i have found is incorrect, to say the least! I should have checked it out before posting. So my apologies to you all...

I will start again with Sydney Arthur Postins 1894 /1965. Father Allen John Postins 1865 / 1939 and see how it goes.
Many thanks once again.

Regards
Tomm
Title: Re: John Postins
Post by: ciderdrinker on Wednesday 25 January 23 13:26 GMT (UK)
HI
Just to say there was a possible baptism for John 3.3.1767 Wolverley s of John and Elizabeth Postin  but I will start on the new info

Had a look and yes the tree does go back to John and Elizabeth Burnridge
Allen John Postins
John Postins 1839-1918 and Emma Parsons 1844-1922
William Postins and Jane Williams
William Postins and Mary Mason married Enville 1810
John Postins and Elizabeth Burnridge

Unfortunatley my Library computer is now turning off as I've had my slot


Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: John Postins
Post by: tomm on Wednesday 25 January 23 15:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Ciderdrinker
 
Many thanks for taking the time to point me in the right direction.
I have looked at the Postins family and come to Elizabeth Burnridge. which I need to look at carefully
It looks like she had a son, a William K Postins in 1785.

I will search some more!
Many thanks
Regards
Tomm
Title: Re: John Postins
Post by: osprey on Wednesday 25 January 23 17:34 GMT (UK)
To help check the tree
date of birth for Sidney Arthur from index of 1939 register is 30 Aug 1894
birth registration Sidney Arthur Postins dec qtr 1894 Brentford vol 3a pg 144 mmn Strudwick
1911 census with mother-in-law Elizabeth Strudwick
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW4S-WH4

Parish register for marriage of Allen John
29 July 1889 St Philips Kensington
Allen John Postins 24 bach carman 9 Grove Place Acton father John Postins labourer
Fanny Strudwick 20 spinster 41 Wynnstay Gardens father James Strudwick gardener
witnesses James Strudwick & Emily Evans

1881 census with parents John & Emma
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27F-MQNP
birth reg Allen John Postins march qtr 1865 Stourbridge vol 6c pg 228 mmn Parsons
baptism 2 April 1865 at Kingswinford (mistranscribed as Porteous)
marriage reg John Postins dec qtr 1862 Stourbrigde vol 6c pg 263 with Emma Parsons on the same page. Haven't found parish register as yet to confirm father.



Title: Re: John Postins
Post by: tomm on Thursday 26 January 23 11:15 GMT (UK)
Hello Osprey

Thank you for taking the time for researching the Postins Family
for me it's much appreciated...

Many thanks
Regards
Tom

Title: Re: John Postins
Post by: ciderdrinker on Friday 27 January 23 11:44 GMT (UK)
Good Morning
Carrying on from Osprey.
I can't see the marriage either but he is on the 1871 census with a birth 1839 Wolverley.
Looking at GRO births there is only one in the area
John Postens
Dec 1838 Seisden  mother's maiden name Williams 17 118

Checking with the 1851 census Stourton
William Postins 41 farm labourer Kinver
Jane  41 Rock
George 15 labourer Kinver
John 12 Kinver
James 10 Kinver
Harriet 7 Wolverley
Jane 5 Kinver
Alice 1 Kidderminster
John brother 36 labourer Wolverley

William Postance married Jane Williams at Kidderminster 26 12.1830 with the consent of parents .wit Hannah Postance and William Crow.

William s of William and Sarah Kinver 13 May 1810
John s of William and Mary 19 Feb 1815 Wolverley

I think they must have made a mistake with William's mother as the only marriage I can see is William Postins Enville 30.10.1810 to Mary Mason bach and spinster of this parish
wit Ann Cooper and William Morris.
The couple are at Wolverley 184,1851 ,a861 censuses
William gives his birth as 1786 Worcestershire ,1787 Rochford  and 1786 Wolverley

Possible baptisms
William 26 Feb 1786 Kidderminster s of John and Elizabeth Postin -the one you have
and
William 8.4.1787 Rochford  s of Edward and Mary Postans

So it is possible that William was not the son of John and Elizabeth but Edward and Mary Postans.

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: John Postins
Post by: tomm on Friday 27 January 23 15:56 GMT (UK)
Hello again Ciderdrinker

Like your good self I have had problems with the names Postens Postings and Postance.

Thank you once again for your time and patience for me. 70 odd years ago I married  into the
Postins family and my good lady and I are stiill around!.
So I have been trying to do the family tree and I am struggling somewhat...
Many thanks to you and everyone who has helped me.
kind regards to all
Tomm
Title: Re: John Postins
Post by: osprey on Friday 27 January 23 17:18 GMT (UK)
You could search on post*   ;)

The 1871 census is a little off. Can't find it on FamilySearch so I'll type up details

Bellevue, Kingswinford RG10/3025 folio 83 pg 44
John Postins head widower 56 forge labourer b. Worcs, Wolverley (appears to be William's brother from 1851 census)
John Postins head mar 32 iron shearer b. Wolverley
Emma wife 26 b. Staffs, Kingswinford
Albert son 6 b. Kingswinford (is this a mistranscribed Allen J?)
James son 3 b. Kingswinford
Elizabeth dau 3 months b. Kingswinford

birth regs
Colin Thomas Postins Stourbridge sept qtr 1863 mmn Parsons
James William Postins jun qtr 1867 Stourbridge mmn Parsons
Charles Edward Postins sept qtr 1869 Stourbridge mmn Parsons - died march 1870
Mary Elizabeth Postins dec qtr 1870 Stourbridge mmn Parsons

John's place of birth is Kinver on other census entries but Wolverley on this one. Enumerator error?

As noted by ciderdrinker, name of mother is different on the 2 baptisms. There is another baptism in Kinver 18 Oct 1812 of Hannah Postings daughter of William & Sarah.

Then in Wolverley to William, labourer, and Mary Postins
John 19 Feb 1815
Maria 23 Feb 1817
George 4 July 1819 - buried 29 May 1820
Harriot 17 June 1821
Thomas 21 Sep 1823
Charles 28 Aug 1826 - buried 18 Aug 1839
Eliza 8 July 1826

1841 census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ5G-MS5

1851 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGC2-25N

1861 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7X6-Y77 - head of household is son Thomas

The Kidderminster baptism would be ok for birthplace of Wolverley (1861 census) but not Rochford (1851 census)



Title: Re: John Postins
Post by: tomm on Monday 30 January 23 12:02 GMT (UK)
Thank you Osprey

Thanks for all your help, it has been very much appreciated.
Kind regards
Tomm