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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: carol80 on Sunday 12 February 23 03:46 GMT (UK)
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Hi, I had so much help on my last post about this family I am back again. Thank you to all those that gave a helping hand, it was much appreciated. I ended up rebuilding my tree just by going on the direct line. My computer program brought up an old tree I had done in the late 1990s and it just about matched what you gave me.
Background information here; https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=866183.0
I am now looking for the family of William Biddiss and Harriet Seeley.
William was the son of William Biddiss and Eleanor Perry.
William was born on 20 September 1812 in Southwark. He married Harriet in December 1833.
I can not find the marriage. I have nothing on Harriet.
Their children were
William b 9th of March 1832
Saint Mary Newington, Surrey 1834
Oct 19th Born 9th March 1832 No 560
William son of William & Harriet Biddiss
living at Paragon Row
Father a Twine Spinner.
Francis b 26 April 1834
Saint Mary Newington, Surrey 1834
Oct 19th, 1834 Born 26 April 1834 No 561
Francis son of William & Harriet Biddiss
living at Paragon Row
Father a Twine Spinner
John b 10 July 1837 ( Found on F.S.) d 1838 S quarter St Mary Newington ( found on GRO)
Sarah b 1839 (BIDDISS, SARAH SEALEY
GRO Reference: 1839 S Quarter in ST MARY NEWINGTON )
I found the family in 1841 Pg 14, piece/ Folio 1085/48 Ann Street Southwark, Surrey ( F.S).
The only children on the census were William aged 9 and Sarah aged 2
1851 has the same family members but now living at Austins Rope Ground Bermondsey Pg 37 Piece/Folio 1562/ 214
Any information on this family would be greatly appreciated. Even where to start looking would be good.
Carol
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Marriage by Banns 25 Dec 1833 St John the Evangelist, Lambeth
William Biddis (Bachelor) to Harriet Seeley (spinster)
William signed his name, Harriet left her mark X
Witnesses: James Green and Robt Broson?
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So they married 9 months after the first son was born in 1832.
Thank you for the marriage.
Carol.
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Sarah Ann Biddis
Baptism 11 Aug 1839 St Mary, Newington, Southwark (Born 20th July)
Abode Kent Street. Father – Twine spinner
Marriage 21 Dec 1857 St Mary, Newington, Southwark
Sarah Ann Biddiss, minor, Spinster, Kent Street; Father William Biddiss Rope Spinner
John Humphreys, full age, bachelor, general dealer, Kent Street; Father John Humphreys Harness maker.
In the 1861 census they are in Delph Street Southwark ST George with a baby named John.
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"William was the son of William Biddiss and Eleanor Perry.
William was born on 20 September 1812 in Southwark. "
How have you identified William and Eleanor to be the parents?
Using Ancestry London BDM I am not seeing this.
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Possible Death:
BIDDISS, HARRIET age 40
GRO Reference: 1851 S Quarter in SAINT MARY MAGDALEN BERMONDSEY SURREY
Volume 04 Page 11
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Wivenhoe, I have this but have not seen the original.
Name William Biddiss
Christening Date 11 Oct 1812
Christening Place Southwark, London, England, United Kingdom
Christening Place St George The Martyr, Southwark, London, England
Birth Date 20 Sep 1812
Father's Name William Biddiss
Mother's Name Eleanor
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William was born on 20 September 1812 in Southwark
Possible death
BIDDISS, WILLIAM Age 48
GRO Reference: 1861 D Quarter in ST OLAVE SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 32
EDIT: No, this may not be right.
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The son - William Biddiss b 9th of March 1832 .
Possible Death
BIDDISS, WILLIAM Age 23
GRO Reference: 1854 S Quarter in SAINT GEORGE THE MARTYR SOUTHWARK
Volume 01D Page 276
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John b 10 July 1837 ( Found on F.S.) d 1838 S quarter St Mary Newington ( found on GRO)
Birth registration
BIDDISS, JOHN mother - SEELEY
GRO Reference: 1837 S Quarter in OF SAINT GEORGE THE MARTYR SOUTHWARK Volume 04 Page 85
This is probably his death (He is not on 1841 census)
BIDDISS, JOHN age 1
GRO Reference: 1838 S Quarter in ST MARY NEWINGTON Volume 04 Page 264
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Francis b 26 April 1834, is not seen in the 1841 census, so I think he may also have died in infancy.
I did not see a burial record for him.
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Wivenhoe, I have this but have not seen the original.
Name William Biddiss
Christening Date 11 Oct 1812
Christening Place Southwark, London, England, United Kingdom
Christening Place St George The Martyr, Southwark, London, England
Birth Date 20 Sep 1812
Father's Name William Biddiss
Mother's Name Eleanor
Born 20th Sept, Baptised 11 Oct.
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I only found Francis as he was baptized on the same day as William.
thankyou for your help Neale
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After Harriett died in 1851, it looks like William married again. -----
Marriage 2 Nov 1851 St Mary, Newington, Southwark
William Biddiss, full age, widower, twine spinner, Staple Street, Father- William Biddiss twine spinner
Mary Ann Larter, full age, widow, Henry Street, Father – John Cardell deceased.
William signed. Mary ann made her mark X
Witnesses - William Cardell, Catherine Cardell.
In the 1861 census they are living in the Leather Market, Southwark
William and wife Mary both 48, and a daughter Mary age 9.
Birth for that daughter:
BIDDISS, MARY ANN Mother - CORDELL
GRO Reference: 1852 D Quarter in SAINT MARY MAGDALEN BERMONDSEY SURREY Volume 01D Page 93
In 1871 census St James Bermondsey: William Biddiss 59 Twine spinner and wife Mary Biddiss 61 are living with Mary’s son-in-law James Fodering
(That death I posted for William in reply #7 must be incorrect)
In 1881 census Newington Surrey, Mary Biddess age 70 is a widow
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From your earlier post -
" James John b 9 Dec 1815 Southwark ch 19 Jan 1817 St George The Martyr, Southwark.
Died 19 September 1886 St Saviour Southwark.
James John Biddiss is my children's direct line. "
Ancestry London BDM
St George the Martyr Southwark
BIDDISS William born 6 Sep 1813 bapt 3 Oct 1813
parents John and Mary rope-maker Kent Street
BIDDISS James John born 9 Dec 1815 bapt 19 Jan 1817
parents John and Mary rope-maker Kent Street
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Wivenhoe, I think you are quoting from a different thread, where Carol80 had some wrong information regarding parents. If you read the thread fully, you will see that the error was corrected. I think she has moved on now. :)