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Title: Eliza jones
Post by: philrmoon on Tuesday 21 March 23 21:11 GMT (UK)
Hi

I need some help please

An eliza Jones b abt 1840 in Hereford herefordshire married a Samuel Michael in weobley Herefordshire  around 1868-1871

I am trying to find her parents please

Best wishes Phil
Title: Re: Eliza jones
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 21 March 23 21:25 GMT (UK)
No obvious marriage.  Have you looked for her on the 1841/51/61 censuses?

Her birthplace in both 1871 & 1881 is a little more specific than just Hereford?
Title: Re: Eliza jones
Post by: wivenhoe on Tuesday 21 March 23 21:34 GMT (UK)


What reason do you have to believe that they married?.
Title: Re: Eliza jones
Post by: philrmoon on Wednesday 22 March 23 00:30 GMT (UK)
Hi

1864 weobley herefordshire the marriage was

Eliza Jones to Samuel Michell ( Michael misspelled ) ??

Best wishes Phil
Title: Re: Eliza jones
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Wednesday 22 March 23 02:02 GMT (UK)
In census with husband & family, birthplaces given are St Owen, St Nicholas or St Peter, Herefordshire

Possible, but would need to confirm father's name on marriage

Eliza Jones
Baptism Date:   26 Jul 1840
Baptism Place:   Saint Owen, Hereford, England
Father:   James Jones
Mother:   Sarah
FHL Film Number:   1041600

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/HEF/Hereford/AllSaints1

1841 Herefordshire
Parish: All Saints
Piece: 433, Book: 1, Folio:   4, Page number:   30

All born in county except James
James Jones   45
Sarah Jones 35
John Jones 5
Eliza Jones 1

Cas
Title: Re: Eliza jones
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Wednesday 22 March 23 02:39 GMT (UK)
Looks a good possible

JONES, ELIZA    mmn   ROLLINGS 
GRO Reference: 1840  S Quarter in HEREFORD AND DORE  Volume 26  Page 161

Marriage
Sarah Rollings
Marriage Date:   1 Dec 1834
Marriage Place:   St Peter, Hereford, England
Spouse:   James Jones
FHL Film Number:   1041603

Baptism
Sarah Rollings
Baptism Date: 3 Jun 1804
Baptism Place: Almeley, Hereford, England
Father: Thomas Rollings
Mother: Rhebeccah
FHL Film Number: 993075

Baptism of brother
Thomas Rollings
Baptism Date: 7 Jun 1801
Baptism Place: Almeley, Hereford, England
Father: Thomas Rollings
Mother: Rhebeccah
FHL Film Number: 993075

1861 Almeley
Registration district Weobley
Thomas Rollings   60   Head Almeley, Herefordshire
Priscilla Rollings 45   Wife
Eliza Jones 20   Niece, Herefordshire

Which would put her in right area to marry Samuel in 1864.

Cas
Title: Re: Eliza jones
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Wednesday 22 March 23 02:54 GMT (UK)
Parents of Thomas born 1801 & Sarah 1804

Thomas Rollings
Marriage Date: 1 Nov 1798
Marriage Place: Almeley, Hereford, England
Spouse:   Rhebeccah Arrowsmith
FHL Film Number: 993075

You would still need to confirm if James Jones is father.

Cas
Title: Re: Eliza jones
Post by: philrmoon on Wednesday 22 March 23 12:41 GMT (UK)
Hi

Tremendous information,  thanks

Any idea what become of James, Sarah   and John after 1841 ??? Please

Best wishes Phil
Title: Re: Eliza jones
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Wednesday 22 March 23 13:12 GMT (UK)
Hi

Cannot seem to locate family in 1851, cannot see anymore children on GRO. Difficult pinning any deaths with a surname Jones

Possible for brother John in 1851 Stratton Sugwas age 16 as a working servant.  Maybe others will have more luck.

Cas
Title: Re: Eliza jones
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Wednesday 22 March 23 13:30 GMT (UK)
Possible bapt of brother

John Ballinger Jones
Baptism Date:   6 Jan 1836
Baptism Place:   Saint Owen, Hereford, England
Father:   James Jones
Mother:   Sarah
FHL Film Number:   1041600

Cas
Title: Re: Eliza jones
Post by: philrmoon on Wednesday 22 March 23 13:43 GMT (UK)
Hi  thanks thanks

In Stretton sugwas in Herefordshire  ??

That could be useful

Have you got any more information please

Best wishes Phil
Title: Re: Eliza jones
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Wednesday 22 March 23 14:05 GMT (UK)
Stretton Sugwas is in Hereford

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/HEF/StrettonSugwas

Eliza & Samuel can be found on census you could use family search

Possible - 1851 for John, with John & Elizabeth James family
John Jones, age: 16
Relation:   Servant,  born: St Owens, Herefordshire, England
Civil Parish:   Stretton Sugwas, Herefordshire
Piece: 1977, Folio: 523, Page Number: 10

Cas