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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Ayrshire => Topic started by: staplehouse on Saturday 15 April 23 08:13 BST (UK)
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the ex husband of Frances Taylor, William Mason it stats that he was born in Ayrshire in 1856 stated by his wife Angelina Wright in 1934 he died on the 27th September I have search for his birth records and can not find any thing or any thing on when he arrived in Australia can you point me in the right direction
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You are researching the origins of William MASON?
You have a death certificate for William MASON, who died somewhere in Australia in 1934.
The informant is his wife Angelina WRIGHT.
Can you please list all the information on the death certificate.
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william died on the 27th September 1934 at Coleridge st Peakhurst he was 78
informant was A M Mason of coleridge St Peakhurst
born in Aryshire Scotland 60 years in NSW
1st Marriage at Maitland aged 27 Frances Taylor
2nd Marriage at Woollahra Sydney 64 to Angelina Maria Wright
he was a building contracted and no children of either marriage
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This marriage certificate would record details about William's origins, and he is the author of the information. It would be a useful record for you to see.
NSW BDM
1705/1920 MASON William marr. WRIGHT Angelina M @ Woollahra
Using BDM NSW index I am not seeing the earlier marriage to Frances.
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ok will get it and get back to you
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The nearest birth in Ayr for a William Mason was 1863, MMN Boyd
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Possible 1st marriage
Wm Mason
France Taylor
Morpeth New South Wales
Year 1886
Death for Francis Mason 23 December 1918
Burial Cemetery Waverley
Sydney New South Wales
Rosie
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yes that is correct and i have it and it states on there that he was born in Kent England and he was a painter and he was 36 where on the death one he stated that he married at 27 years
i think this guy did not known much about himself
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yes that is correct and i have it and it states on there that he was born in Kent England and he was a painter and he was 36 where on the death one he stated that he married at 27 years
i think this guy did not known much about himself
Maybe he had been married when he was 27, lost his first wife and then emigrated and married again when he was 36?
And it wasn't he who gave the information on his death certificate, but his second wife (or third if the above theory is right) who may not have got his earlier life right.
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There is this family in Ayrshire in 1861:
John Mason 40 Chelsea Pensioner & Staff Off Militia b. Ireland
Mary E Mason 33 b. England
John W Mason 3 b. Ireland
Philip J Mason 1 b. Ayr
Alicia Ripton 72 Mother Formerly Shop Keeper b. Ireland
Address: Steels L George St, St Quivox, Ayr
Wondered whether the W middle name initial could be for William and John W Mason went by William in later years.
1851 has parents in Scarborough, Yorkshire England:
John Mason 30, Corporal 46th Regiment b. Ballimicaton (??), Ireland
Mary Elizabeth Mason 24 b. Kings Meare, Devon
In Scotland, the birth of Philip James and 3 more girls is showing www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
1862 Ann Elizabeth, died 1862
1863 Eliza Mary
1866 Margarat Sophy, died 1875 aged 9
The family in 1871 are in Green Street Lane, Newton-On-Ayr, Ayr.
You would need to check one of the registrations for William (marriages or death) to confirm his parents' names I would suggest.
Monica
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on both marriage and death it states nothing about his parents
but getting his second marriage certificate and his second wife death ceritifcate to see if any thing
will get back to you when i received them
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Was there anything of note in his children's names (assume he had children with first wife)?
Scots and Irish are know to follow often some form of naming pattern for their children. Not always followed to the letter or in strict order but worth considering nevertheless. Lots of links for this such as www.cotyroneireland.com/guide/NamePaterns.html Also there might be surnames used as middle names for the children which can also help (often the source of this would be surnames from the maternal line).
Hope you find something that helps further :)
Monica
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there was no children to both marriage which makes it harder again
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I can see the death notice for 1st wife Frances https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15817098?searchTerm=frances%20mason but can't easily see a notice for William following his death (you mentioned 27 September 1934 for his death?).
Monica
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yes that is right
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Found William's https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17122289?searchTerm=william%20mason
Sure you have these ;) Was just checking if there was anything of note that could help further, but there is not sadly.
Monica
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yes that is correct and i have it and it states on there that he was born in Kent England and he was a painter and he was 36 where on the death one he stated that he married at 27 years
i think this guy did not known much about himself
Just seen a copy of this on a tree on Ancestry it seems strange that there is no mention of parents .It does say he was born in Kent and his age would give him a birth year of 1850 as you said he doesn't seem to know much about himself
Rosie
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It is not unusual for parents' names, as well as ages and birthplaces to be missing from the registry's records, especially in this era and in regional areas as the consolidation with church records was never completed. Normally you would then go to the church records to see the full details, however this certificate has a notation that the details of age and birthplace were obtained from the church register in 1968 so it looks like the minister did not record the parents' names for either of them.
Debra :)
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today I got William Mason marriage reg for his second marriage to Angelina Wright and on it it stats that he was born at Ayrshire Scotland his father was William Mason and mother Elizabeth
so where to now
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Does it give an occupation for his father?
Who were the witnesses at the marriage?
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Father was a building contractor
witness at the wedding was R Maddock William Bulgin at the Congregation Church Jersey Road Woollahra New South Wales