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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cambridgeshire => Topic started by: bobtonks on Tuesday 02 May 23 19:08 BST (UK)
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In 1911 Christopher S Gifford [47] was living in Histon Cambs with his wife Annie Emily[47].
In 1894 there is a marriage in Cambridge , Christopher Stanley Gifford and Amelia Emily Lever.
In 1863 Q4 Islington, there is a record of a birth for Christopher Stanley Gifford mmn Evans.
Possible marriage 1862 Nathaniel Gifford and Mary Ann Evans , Lewisham.
Nathaniel Gifford died Chesterton 1894 ... probate names Christopher Stanley Gifford.
In 1871 (Poss) Christopher S Gifford living in East Street Prittlewell, Essex. (not with parents)
Can anyone see details of his parents and any census records for them and Christopher?
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Seems likely that the 1871 census you have mentioned is the right one for Christopher.
There is a Nathaniel & Mary Ann Gifford living in Croydon, Surrey in 1871. He is a draper's assistant born c.1837 in Over, Cambridgeshire and she was born c.1834 in Bermondsey, Surrey. No children with them.
With this information, it is a straight-forward search to find Nathaniel on the other censuses.
Nathaniel and Mary Ann had another son, Walter Alfred, in 1865, but he passed away as a young child in 1867.
Queenie :)
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1871 - parents at 3 Edith Villas, Mitcham Rd, Croydon
Nathaniel Gifford 34 b Over, Cambs. Draper's assistant
Mary A Gifford 37 b Bermondsey
1881 - Nathaniel's with his mother and sisters in Fen End, Over
Piece 1607, folio 28. p 22
Susan Gifford 75
Nathaniel Gifford 42
Sarah Gifford 39
Alice Gifford 37
1891 - aged 53, married, living on own means.
Lodger with the Bickens family in Over
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Nathaniel Gifford’s gravestone at Find a Grave
https://tinyurl.com/2vt4y6e8 (https://tinyurl.com/2vt4y6e8)
son of the late Joseph Gifford
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1891 Christopher is a servant in Cambridge in the household of Richard Litton. He's transcribed on Ancestry as Grifford
Piece 1288, Folio 47
Not found on 1881 yet, nor a trace of Mary.
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In terms of Mary Ann, I can see a newspaper article that states that her husband Nathaniel was executor of the will of John Christopher Evans of Rotherhithe, Surrey, who died on 3rd November 1872, along with a James Campbell Evans of Stratford, Essex.
Looking through the will registers, it was actually James Christopher Evans, who was the father of Mary Ann and James Campbell. Their mother was Ann Elizabeth.
Mary Ann is with her parents and her brother in 1851; the family are living in Rotherhithe, Surrey. She is born c.1831 in Bermondsey. Shaved a few years off her age, making her harder to find.
In 1861, she was working as a governess in Islington, alongside her sisters.
Queenie :)
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Thank you all for looking. It's interesting that Nathaniel is usually found "living" in Over Cambs but is buried in Histon. His probate records him "of Histon, gentleman" and as far as I can see he can only have lived there for a very short period... if at all. No telling where his wife Mary Ann was buried.
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Ooh - looks like we have a death and a second wife to find
Nathaniel Gifford
Father: Joseph Gifford
Sarah Jane Arthur
Father: Thomas Carter
Marriage Date 2 Aug 1880, Colchester, All Saints,
There's a notice in an Ipswich paper - describes them as widower and widow, both of COlchester
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Wondering about this death?
Mary Ann Gifford
Age: 49
Death Registration Q4 1879
Poplar Vol 1c p463
Nathaniel is still in Croydon until 1879 - later years he's a sewing machine dealer/agent
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There's a marriage of a Sarah Jane Carter (father Thomas) to George Arthur in Lewisham in 1870. the 1871 census tells us she's b c1845 in Bermondsey
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We're lucky - Nathaniel's been enumerated twice on 1881 (if a little peculiarly). As per Ancestry transcription
8 Beaconsfield Terrace, Friern Rd, Camberwell
Piece 679, folio 87, p7
Natty Giffard 40 Commercial traveller, b Over, Cambs
Jenny Giffard 36 teacher of music and singing, b Bermondsey
Hanley Giffard 17 solicitor's clerk b Holloway [image shows this could say Stanley]
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Sarah Jane
1891 - https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&q.anyPlace=camberwell&q.givenName=sarah&q.surname=gifford
1901 (age wrong) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9HJ-448
1911 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7GF-RBH
There's a death that fits in Sudbury, Q2 1922. Probate register has administrator with will to Frederick Stuart Goodale