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Title: Regiment identification
Post by: liver007 on Sunday 21 May 23 16:24 BST (UK)
I am trying to ascertain a Pte Georg Paul Bramwell cap badge/ Regiment. DOB 5 Feb 1899 Liverpool.

I have attached two photos.



Keith
Title: Re: Regiment identification
Post by: AlanBoyd on Sunday 21 May 23 17:14 BST (UK)
He is in the 1911 census at 21 Upper Stanhope Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool. There is a military record for a George Bramwell Royal Field Artillery, 3587, with that address.
Title: Re: Regiment identification
Post by: AlanBoyd on Sunday 21 May 23 17:22 BST (UK)
The photo is distorted by the (AI-based?) restoration, but it may be the expected field gun with crown above.
Title: Re: Regiment identification
Post by: liver007 on Sunday 21 May 23 17:25 BST (UK)
Quote from: AlanBoyd on Sunday 21 May 23 17:14 BST (UK)
He is in the 1911 census at 21 Upper Stanhope Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool. There is a military record for a George Bramwell Royal Field Artillery, 3587, with that address.

AlanBoyd,

I did look at his Army Record and he lied about his age and in Sep 1915 he was discharged from the RFC for lying about his age.

The photo I think could be the York’s & Lancs Regiment? I very unsure


Keith
Title: Re: Regiment identification
Post by: AlanBoyd on Sunday 21 May 23 17:58 BST (UK)
I can’t convince myself that there is a lion with a rose above (Y&LR) in that cap badge.

Mentioning this man to rule him out:

George Bramwell, 15467 Y&LR, of Birley Carr, Sheffield, awarded the Military Medal.
Title: Re: Regiment identification
Post by: jim1 on Sunday 21 May 23 18:37 BST (UK)
The badly mangled restore doesn't help but possibly Small Arms School Corps.
Need to see the original.
Title: Re: Regiment identification
Post by: liver007 on Sunday 21 May 23 19:18 BST (UK)
Quote from: AlanBoyd on Sunday 21 May 23 17:58 BST (UK)
I can’t convince myself that there is a lion with a rose above (Y&LR) in that cap badge.

Mentioning this man to rule him out:

George Bramwell, 15467 Y&LR, of Birley Carr, Sheffield, awarded the Military Medal.

I don’t have the photo so it’s very difficult
I do know he was married in the Rotherham area in Jan 1918?

Title: Re: Regiment identification
Post by: liver007 on Sunday 21 May 23 19:19 BST (UK)
Quote from: jim1 on Sunday 21 May 23 18:37 BST (UK)
The badly mangled restore doesn't help but possibly Small Arms School Corps.
Need to see the original.

I am afraid I don’t have the original
Title: Re: Regiment identification
Post by: AlanBoyd on Sunday 21 May 23 20:37 BST (UK)
He was discharged from the RFA, but he did serve for a while. Would he have been entitled to wear a version of the uniform for a photo after the discharge? And even if not, perhaps he did it anyway.
Title: Re: Regiment identification
Post by: Blairvadach on Monday 22 May 23 08:14 BST (UK)
Hi
You might like to make some enquiries on this site! It’s free and the people on there really know their stuff!!

https://www.greatwarforum.org/
Title: Re: Regiment identification
Post by: liver007 on Monday 22 May 23 09:48 BST (UK)
Quote from: Blairvadach on Monday 22 May 23 08:14 BST (UK)
Hi
You might like to make some enquiries on this site! It’s free and the people on there really know their stuff!!

https://www.greatwarforum.org/

Thanks Blairvadach

I shall do
Title: Re: Regiment identification
Post by: liver007 on Monday 22 May 23 09:50 BST (UK)
Quote from: AlanBoyd on Sunday 21 May 23 20:37 BST (UK)
He was discharged from the RFA, but he did serve for a while. Would he have been entitled to wear a version of the uniform for a photo after the discharge? And even if not, perhaps he did it anyway.

AlanBoyd,

It is so difficult to find the right person. Or Regiment I shall keep trying.

👍
Title: Re: Regiment identification
Post by: alan o on Monday 22 May 23 18:14 BST (UK)
South Lancashire (Prince Of Wales Volunteers) fits the badge. 100% certain of it.  No chance at all he was RA in that photo.
Title: Re: Regiment identification
Post by: liver007 on Monday 22 May 23 18:41 BST (UK)
Quote from: alan o on Monday 22 May 23 18:14 BST (UK)
South Lancashire (Prince Of Wales Volunteers) fits the badge. 100% certain of it.  No chance at all he was RA in that photo.

Alan o

Cheers I shall take a look

Keith
Title: Re: Regiment identification
Post by: alan o on Monday 22 May 23 18:47 BST (UK)
This is it.
Title: Re: Regiment identification
Post by: liver007 on Monday 22 May 23 18:57 BST (UK)
Quote from: alan o on Monday 22 May 23 18:47 BST (UK)
This is it.

Alan o

I shall research the regiment and see if he served with them?


Keith