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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Gloucestershire => England => Gloucestershire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Heather58 on Monday 22 May 23 22:38 BST (UK)
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Good evening, my ancestor was Lewis Frederick Lloyd Jones and he lived Merlin Way, Leckhampton, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire. He died 19 Jun 1998. He was married to Mary Lloyd Jones nee Mary Frances Joyce Ewins born November 1917 in Acton London they married in Parish Church of Llanallgo, Anglesey her parents were Samuel Ewins and Mary Florence McCafferty. In Lewis's Will he leaves lots of items to Mary and other people including a son which I never knew about - who is he, no name given. What I would like to know is can anyone help me find the death of Mary his wife and who was his son?
Thank you
Kind regards
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The marriage was 1941 so if he was born within the marriage there is nothing showing. Lewis was b 1909 - does the 1941 marriage cert show whether he was previously married
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There is a marriage in Gloucs in 1968 with the same christian name & initials as your ancestor
If this is the son - there is no birth reg & as he may still be alive - details can’t be given here
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I wonder if he married twice. If the 1968 marriage was him - he was 59 at the time. His wife may have been previously married so if there was a birth you would need to establish her maiden name via purchase of the 1968 marriage cert
The “son” may have been hers from a previous relationship
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The 1968 marriage was a second marriage & his wife was Mary Fluke b 1921 Glamorgan. She is the Mary in the will - not Mary F J.
She was single but I can’t see an illegitimate birth prior to 1968 or a birth after the marriage. There are 3 in the London area in the 1950’s
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Acton Gazette dated 23 February 1951 reports the death of Sam (Samuel) Ewins.
Mary F J Lloyd Jones nee Ewins was still alive at that time. The obituary says he leaves a widow a son and two married daughters.
The son is John S Ewins, Mr. L F Lloyd Jones and Mr. John Day sons in law, it also mentions several of his brothers and sisters.
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Since her husband was the Reverend L F Lloyd Jones perhaps if you follow his career you will happen upon her death or separation.
There is an article in the Liverpool Echo 8 March 1938 about his abrupt resignation as curate from St Anne's Aigburth, he was previously at St John's Waterloo.
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Electoral Rolls
1954 Champion Hill Dulwich lists both Lewis F and Mary F J
1959 Dulwich Lewis F and Mary F J
1961 94 Calton Avenue Dulwich only Lewis F is listed.
So she possibly died late 1958 (the rolls are made the previous year) and before 1961 in the Dulwich area
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thank you so much everyone I will investigate
Kind regards
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You might want to get the 1968 marriage to Mary Fluke to see if he is a widower, it's possible they
separated as a death registration hasn't been found.
Mary F J may have remarried in which case her death will be later under a different surname
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Marriage, March 1967 Ealing 5b 278
Jones, Mary F. J. L. - spouse Tame
Lloyd Jones, Mary F. J. - spouse Tame
Tame, Thomas G. - spouse Jones
Tame, Thomas G. - spouse Lloyd Jones
Death
TAME, MARY FRANCES JOYCE
Year of Birth 1917
GRO Reference: DOR Q4/2007 in HASTINGS AND ROTHER (4561C) Reg 1C002 Entry Number 6
Probate
Mary Frances Joyce Tame
Date of Death 30 September 2007
Date of Probate 11 December 2007 (Ipswich)
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a son which I never knew about - who is he, no name given.
A possible son registered in the June quarter 1943, in Willesden RD.
Married in Bedford, Sep qtr 1969 (he is indexed twice)
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A possible son registered in the June quarter 1943, in Willesden RD.
Married in Bedford, Sep qtr 1969 (he is indexed twice)
He is in Acton in 1965, on the electoral register with his mum, Mary F. Lloyd-Jones, and grandmother Mary F. Ewins, at 5 Westbourne Avenue.
Mary Frances Joyce was listed at 5 Westbourne Avenue on the 1939 electoral register, but seems not to be at home when the National Register was taken on the 29 September (mum and twin sister Margaret were there)
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Thank you everyone for your help, at least I now know what happened to her.
Kind regards
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definitely lost the plot on this. Lewis married two Mary's his 1st wife was Mary Frances Joyce Ewins died 2007 and I have her Will. He then married Mary Fluke born 21st May 1921 but haven't a clue when she died can anyone help me? I have seen on Ancestry MS Mary Lloyd-Jones 1/10/2001 Llandudno but no record on the Wills database. There is a Mary Lloyd-Jones died 18 Oct 2001 date of probate 25th March 2002 Reg Office Bristol is there a mistake in the dates?
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2001 death was born in 1909, wasn’t Mary Fluke born 1921?
LLOYD-JONES, MARY 1909
GRO Reference: DOR Q4/2001 in ABERCONWY (8451A) Reg 24A Entry Number 45
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Thank you so much for taking the time to look for me
Kind regards
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I think this is the right death for Mary:-
LLOYD-JONES, MARY 1921
GRO Reference: DOR Q4/2016 in GLOUCESTERSHIRE (488-1L) Entry Number 514752706
Birth may have been registered a little late. 1939 register shows birth date of 21.5.1921 and also the married name above.
Births Sep 1921
Fluke Mary Jones Pontypridd 11a 1175