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Mary CLARKE was bap 05 Apr 1775 in Ellastone, Staffs, parents Thomas & Elizabeth.
The only marriage I've been able to find is:-
11 May 1752 - Thomas CLARK m Elizabeth COLLIER in Ellastone
Their offspring were:-
16 Feb 1753 Richard bap in Norbury & Roston, Derbs
do Thomas do do do
15 May 1757 John do do do
06 May 1759 Joseph do do do
Then follows a hiatus of some 14 years until
18 Jul 1773 Samuel bap in Ellastone
05 Apr 1775 Mary do
03 Jul 1778 Ann do
02 Jul 1780 Elizabeth do
I find it hard to believe that the above represent only one family, especially when considering the probable age of Elizabeth and the following burials in Ellastone:-
30 Jul 1759 Elizabeth CLARK
17 Oct 1768 Elizabeth CLARK, wife of Thomas
but I cannot find another Thomas & Elizabeth marriage between 1759 and 1773.
There is a strong possibility that this is Thomas's burial:-
29 Feb 1784 bur of Thomas CLARKE, aged 88, in Ellastone
and this is the burial of his second wife (if he had one):-
25 Jun 1826 bur of Elizabeth CLARK, aged 67, in Norbury
I am confused; can anyone help, please?
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(freereg) records.
Thomas CLARK Baptism 22 Nov 1724 Staffordshire Ellastone : St Peter : Other Transcript Parents Samuel & Ann
OR
Thomas CLARKE Baptism 10 Dec 1730 Staffordshire Ellastone : St Peter : Other Transcript Father Thomas
Eliz COLLIER Baptism 03 Nov 1723 Staffordshire Ellastone : St Peter : Other Transcript Father Richard
Thomas CLARK (28) to Elizabeth COLLIER (29)
Marriage 11 May 1752 Staffordshire Ellastone : St Peter : Other Transcript
16 Feb 1753 Richard bap in Norbury & Roston, Derbs
do Thomas do do do
15 May 1757 John do do do
06 May 1759 Joseph do do do
Both the following noted as wife of Thomas.
Elizabeth CLERK Burial 30 Jul 1759 Staffordshire Ellastone : St Peter : Other Transcript
Elizabeth CLARK Burial 17 Oct 1768 Staffordshire Ellastone : St Peter : Other Transcript
These children I think are from a separate Thomas & Elizabeth (Elizabeth Collier would be 57 when Elizabeth below was born).
18 Jul 1773 Samuel bap in Ellastone
05 Apr 1775 Mary do
03 Jul 1778 Ann do
02 Jul 1780 Elizabeth do
Colin Clarke
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Agreed.
Mary (1775) is my interest but, if we're correct and there are two families, where's the record of a marriage between Thomas CLARKE & Elizabeth XXXX prior to the bap of Samuel in 1773?
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I'm thinking I should forget the apparent Derbs connection and concentrate on Ellastone. Should I mark this thread as 'complete' and open another thread in the Staffs section?
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I'm not so sure you should forget the Derbyshire connection, Norbury is only 1 mile & Roston 2 miles from Ellastone, Staffs. Sadly I am unable to find the Derbyshire records for those two places but you noted that the Thomas & Elizabeth who married 1752 had a son Thomas in 1753, could he not be the father of Mary 1775.
There are marriages for a Thomas & Elizabeth in Staffordshire and elsewhere, or maybe the record did not survive, or they did not marry?
Colin
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Unfortunately, you're right on all counts!
Anyway, I've just put a revised posting on Staffs but, in the light of your latest, I'm not very hopeful.
To avoid duplication, I shall mark this thread as 'completed' unless you think otherwise
George
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Sometimes a similar post can confuse the issue, it is best to link the two otherwise members may waste time on what is already known.
Just add a reference of your new post to the original, I would suggest you do not mark the original as completed.
If in doubt contact the Moderator.
Colin
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Just for information.
Samuel Clark, Husbandman - Of Okeover, Mathfield Marriage 24 Apr 1711Uttoxeter, Staffordshire Spouse Anne Walker of Ellaston
Residence not clear on family search, maybe other way around but OPR on FindMyPast
Sam/uel & Ann/e
Staffordshire Ellastone: St Peter – Baptisms
Margaret Clerke 2 Mar 1712
Sarah Clerke 29 Oct 1713
Thomas Clark 2 Feb 1718 burial 17 Jul 1722
George Clarke 19 Jul 1720 burial 11 May 1721
John Clark 8 Apr 1722
Thomas Clark 22 Nov 1724 burial 21 Dec 1730
Samuel Clarke 4 May 1728
No ages on all burials, above noted as sons of Sam & Ann.
Anne CLARK Wife of Sam Burial 10 Aug 1760 Staffordshire Ellastone : St Peter
Samuel CLARK Burial 15 Jul 1763 Staffordshire Ellastone : St Peter ?
Colin
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Baptisms Ellastone : St Peter (Not sure if this is one family.
Thomas CLARKE 10 Dec 1730 Father Thomas
Joseph Clarke 10 Oct 1732 ditto
Parents Thos & Eliz
Anne CLARK 26 Dec 1728 burial 5 Feb 1732
Prudence Clarke 5 Nov 1737
So was it Thomas 1730 above that married below?
Elizabeth COLLIER to Thomas CLARK Marriage 11 May 1752 Staffordshire
Ellastone : St Peter
Maybe this is the father of the above.
Thomas CLARKE Burial age 88 (1696) 29 Feb 1784 Staffordshire Ellastone : St Peter : Other Transcript
Colin
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I have started a new thread in Staffordshire, subject:-
Mary CLARKE, Ellastone, 1770's
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Colin,
Is that what you wanted me to do?
George
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I think Maddys52 has made the link.
Regards Colin.