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Title: Shipwreck of British Ship "The Duke" O.N. 15028 in 1867
Post by: aweepeep on Wednesday 28 June 23 08:41 BST (UK)
Hi, I have for many years trying to get as much information surrounding this ship.
My Great Grandfather, John Campbell, was the master.
I have a copy of the crew list which I obtained from UK National Archives which mentions, and I quote " wrecked on Barbuda Island on 2 Jany 1867" unquote.
The logbook was lost during the shipwreck however, this crew list was received by the Shipping Master at Liverpool 27 September 1867 and was signed by John. So, they must have returned sometime in September 1867. I've been going through newspapers to locate any articles relating to
this but I have not had any luck.

 I did have information that the ship struck the North Reef of Barbuda on 1 January 1867 however, I have lost this information. Very sorry.

I do have information from the Liverpool Mercury February 25, 1867, that states she was wrecked off Bermuda. Her crew were saved and are on board the R.M.C. steamer Conway which had arrived at Port Royal. The West Indies At Jamaica.
I cannot locate any information on the Conway, or any information on how they got back to Liverpool, or in what condition they were in.

In 2021 I contacted the Antigua and Barbuda National Archives to see if they could help, unfortunately, they could not locate any details of the shipwreck. I also wanted to know if John had died there, as I thought he may have returned there. If so, was there any records.
They messaged St Kitts Archives for any information, unfortunately, there has been no
 reply. This was during COVID, but I will follow-up with them.

I am very sorry to be so long winded, but I do not have any details on John after his returned to England, except he appeared on the UK 1871 census along with his family.
It has been a monumental task to get this far, and time is running out to give John his fitting final closure.
Very kind regards for any help and your patience.
Title: Re: Shipwreck of British Ship "The Duke" O.N. 15028 in 1867
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 28 June 23 09:03 BST (UK)
Noticed she sailed from Cardiff late October so checked Welsh newspapers. A brief mention of the loss - mid col 4.
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3095320/3095328/62/Duke%20AND%20campbell
Title: Re: Shipwreck of British Ship "The Duke" O.N. 15028 in 1867
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 28 June 23 09:21 BST (UK)
Lloyds Register 1867 lists only a Conway Castle. A Conway Castle, built 1866, sailed 2 Jan from Liverpool for Lima.
No Conway or Conway Castle listed in the 1866 Register.
Title: Re: Shipwreck of British Ship "The Duke" O.N. 15028 in 1867
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 28 June 23 09:28 BST (UK)
Liverpool Shipping Telegraph, 23 Mar 1867
VESSELS SPOKEN WITH

By the "City of Quebec" -
Conway Castle, from Liverpool for Callao, Feb 4, lat 3N  long 26W
Title: Re: Shipwreck of British Ship "The Duke" O.N. 15028 in 1867
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 28 June 23 09:37 BST (UK)
Wrecksite.eu has very little information regarding SS The Duke.

Built 1848, reference to "Record of Canadian Shipping"?

https://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?255084
Title: Re: Shipwreck of British Ship "The Duke" O.N. 15028 in 1867
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 28 June 23 10:01 BST (UK)
Noticed the Conway is a steamship.
In Lloyds register the Conway Castle is identified by "S" only. The explanation of abbreviations has "S = Ship". Steamers are identified by "Stm or Scw"

Should have checked with you of the significance of "R.M.C"?
Title: Re: Shipwreck of British Ship "The Duke" O.N. 15028 in 1867
Post by: aweepeep on Friday 30 June 23 10:19 BST (UK)
I would like to thank everyone for their replies.
In a previous post I mentioned a Vessel RMC Conway. Her name was RMS Conway, and I am currently trying to locate her details regarding the repatriation of the crew from my Great Grandfather's shipwreck.
I do know that she was built in 1846 and the builders were William Pitcher, Northfleet England.
She served in the West Indies carrying mail and passengers between the West Indies, UK and US during 1846 to 1867.
She was destroyed in St. Thomas US Virgin Islands in October 1867 and scrapped in 1870.

On another issue, would there have been an inquiry on the shipwreck of this British ship?
If so, where would that have been held, what records would there be and where can I request copies?

Thans for your patience.
Regards
Title: Re: Shipwreck of British Ship "The Duke" O.N. 15028 in 1867
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 30 June 23 16:05 BST (UK)
I believe RMS means Royal Mail Ship?
Title: Re: Shipwreck of British Ship "The Duke" O.N. 15028 in 1867
Post by: aweepeep on Saturday 01 July 23 03:01 BST (UK)
Hi,
You are correct.
I should have mentioned that in my post.
Thanks and Regards
Title: Re: Shipwreck of British Ship "The Duke" O.N. 15028 in 1867
Post by: wivenhoe on Saturday 01 July 23 04:32 BST (UK)


If you are wanting to account for John Campbell after the 1867 shipwreck, and you have located him the 1871 census, it would be useful to identify the entry in the 1871 census.

Can you describe the census entry that you see.
Title: Re: Shipwreck of British Ship "The Duke" O.N. 15028 in 1867
Post by: aweepeep on Saturday 01 July 23 07:28 BST (UK)
Thank you for your reply.
I have attached a pdf. copy.
In case the attachment hasn't worked, I will list the details below-
Lancashire 1871 Census.
RG 10/3776 page 35.
Parish                              Liverpool.
Municipal Borough of         Liverpool.
Municipal Ward of             Pitt St part of.
Parliamentary Borough of  Liverpool part of.
Town of                            Liverpool part of.
 Ecclesiastical District of     St Thomas part of {the writing is terrible}
No of Schedule                  182
Street                               20 Argyle St
Name                               John Campbell Head Mar 45 Master Mariner Scotland
                                        Mary A ""        Wife        30                        Warwickshire Birmingham
                                        John D  ""       Son           6 Scholar             On the Sea
                                         Elizabeth B "" Dau  r       3     Do                 Liverpool.

Hope this helps.
kind regards