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I am trying to gain sight of the cruise ship HMS Carmania that called at Nassau in December 1967 Could anybody how this might be done please?
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As RMS Carmania was a Cunard cruise ship, might be best to contact Cunard themselves.
Originally built as RMS Saxonia in 1954, renamed Carmania in 1962.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Saxonia_(1954)
RMS = Royal Mail Ship
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Thanks for the inspiration to contact Cunard. I have been trying to get sight of the list for ages, but, I suppose that you know how things are, one gets tired takes their eye off of the ball and it gets side tracked. I will have another look at what I have tried and try and get back with more info.
BTW the link not work.
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Couldn’t have been
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Carmania_(1905)
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Couldn’t have been
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Carmania_(1905)
The 1905 Carmania was scrapped in 1932!
So impossible for that ship to be in Nassau in 1967?
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It seems that getting info is complex
All I have been able to find out so far is that the 21,647 ton Salonica was built in 1954 and renamed the Carmania (2) one of three in 1963 which was resold to Russia in 1973 and renamed Leonid Sobinov.
And, judging by what I have found thus far stands very little chance of getting a reply and that Cunard seems to be much more involved with responding to complaints and making bookings.
Can anybody suggest any novel search terms that might prove successful in getting hold of somebody at Cunard that is sympathetic to historic enquiries such as the one that I am making?
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Passenger Lists kept by the UK Board of Trade were chiefly concerned with Trans-Atlantic crossings and longer journeys (South Africa, Australia, NZ for example.)
I'm not sure much info was kept on cruise ship passengers. But I could be wrong!
That's why I suggested Cunard.
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GG Archives hold some lists, but only up to 1966.
https://www.ggarchives.com/OceanTravel/Passengers/Cunard/Inventory.html
Carmania 1912 to 1930.
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This only goes to 1966
https://lastoceanliners.com/schedule/cunard-line/?s=Carmania~CUN#form
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Thanks for that link Haywood
I am pretty sure that the sailing was
Southampton 9/12/66, Le Harvrve 10/12/66, Bermuda 16/12/66, Nassau 19/12/66, Fort Lauderdale 20/12/66.
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Thanks for that link Haywood
I am pretty sure that the sailing was
Southampton 9/12/66, Le Harvrve 10/12/66, Bermuda 16/12/66, Nassau 19/12/66, Fort Lauderdale 20/12/66.
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Your original post says 1967 for Nassau?
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You are right. I am probably getting tired.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Though, at least I have got a better of the ports of call of the ship which I didn’t have before.
If and when I have a better idea of somebody, such as the NA to ask for further advice at least I can construct a more definite question.
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I think that the cruise ship called at Nassau and went on to fort Lauderdale
I have found a link but can not make significant sense of it
I am not sure of the date. Only that my late father was on the ship with his mother.
More to follow
https://catalog.archives.gov/search-within/2922374?q=Marsh
Thé voyage that I am seeking details on took place in Dec 1967.
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I can’t navigate past this
https://share.icloud.com/photos/0b7VoWCuvWMKSjEdr0owZ2C8A
Please could anyone help me find out why?
(Temporary file expires 30/5/25
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I can’t navigate past this
https://share.icloud.com/photos/0b7VoWCuvWMKSjEdr0owZ2C8A
Please could anyone help me find out why?
(Temporary file expires 30/5/25
I cannot open your link at all.
The link in #12 is for airplane passengers & crew.
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This series might work. But not online yet.
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/470760829
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Thanks for that.
I have been struggling to find the info for years.
This is the most promising thing I have seen yet.
I did not realise that the port had two names.
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I stand to be corrected but. I believe passenger Lists available online only go up to 1960.
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Jebber
The link provided by mckha489 is for US National Archives website & passenger lists created for/stored by the US Immigration and Naturalization Service.
You are referring to the British Board of Trade inwards and outwards lists 1890-1960 on Ancestry/Findmypast and discussed on our TNA.
Companies kept their own passenger lists too, there is one for Liverpool to New York 1966 linked previously in the thread on ggarchives (replies 6,7,8) and eg Cunard passenger lists 1840-1853 are on https://digitalheritagelab.liverpool.ac.uk/the-cunard-archive