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Title: Leonard j elphick
Post by: jpankfolly on Saturday 05 August 23 16:22 BST (UK)
Hi. Hope you can help me.
I'm looking for a Leonard j elphick born 1896 in chertsey and was in the armed forces . His son, James h elphick was born in Egypt when stationed there in 1926.
Leonard had a brother Thomas born 1899 chertsey and was also in the forces.
I know it's a big ask but I would be so grateful for any information on Leonard j elphick or his son James h elphick.
Thank you .
Title: Re: Leonard j elphick
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 05 August 23 16:27 BST (UK)
Have you looked on census for Leonard?  He can be found with parents (baptism 18 Nov 1896 confirms names)
Thomas & Emily.

1901 Chertsey

Thomas Elphick 74 head jobbing gardener
Emily 40 wife
Thomas H 8 son
Frederick W 6 son
Leonard J 5 son
Ernest G 2 son
Title: Re: Leonard j elphick
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 05 August 23 16:31 BST (UK)
In 1911 Leonard is in "the school of handecrafts for poor boys" in Chertsey aged 14 as a carpenter pupil.
Title: Re: Leonard j elphick
Post by: Jcutting on Saturday 05 August 23 16:36 BST (UK)
In 1911 Leonard is in "the school of handecrafts for poor boys" in Chertsey aged 14 as a carpenter pupil.
Thank you for your reply. I saw this entry earlier today but It's any military information that he or his son may of had.
It seems Leonard may of followed his brother Thomas in to the armed forces as things at home loomed very bleak.
Thanks again.
Now that's interesting.  Thank you .
Title: Re: Leonard j elphick
Post by: SmallTownGirl on Saturday 05 August 23 16:46 BST (UK)
This link gives limited details for WW1, https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D3470690

but as he served after 1921 his records are not freely available, but are in the process of being transferref from the MOD to the National Archives.
Title: Re: Leonard j elphick
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 05 August 23 16:47 BST (UK)
6134433   ELPHICK L J   1896-10-21

If that's him his army file will either be with the MoD or transferred to National Archives. Suggest you start with the MoD:

https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records/apply-for-someone-elses-records
Title: Re: Leonard j elphick
Post by: Jcutting on Saturday 05 August 23 16:49 BST (UK)
This link gives limited details for WW1, https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D3470690

but as he served after 1921 his records are not freely available, but are in the process of being transferref from the MOD to the National Archives.
Many thanks for your reply.
I did look at the national archives and as you say his records aren't freely available.  Hopefully they might be soon .
Title: Re: Leonard j elphick
Post by: SmallTownGirl on Saturday 05 August 23 16:51 BST (UK)
This link gives limited details for WW1, https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D3470690

but as he served after 1921 his records are not freely available, but are in the process of being transferref from the MOD to the National Archives.
Many thanks for your reply.
I did look at the national archives and as you say his records aren't freely available.  Hopefully they might be soon .

Whether or not they'll be available soon from the National Archives, I very much doubt that they'll be free  :(
Title: Re: Leonard j elphick
Post by: Jcutting on Saturday 05 August 23 16:53 BST (UK)
Yeah probably not lol .
Title: Re: Leonard j elphick
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 05 August 23 16:55 BST (UK)
He served in WW1 with Royal West Kent regiment  17527.

In recruitment registers for East Surrey regiment in 1920, Discharged in 1932. 6134433 (EDIT looks like service could have been continuous)

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/4865/images/40816_1831101883_1517-00154-r00077

(2 pages)
Title: Re: Leonard j elphick
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 05 August 23 16:56 BST (UK)
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D3470690 (re WW 1 medal card)
Title: Re: Leonard j elphick
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 05 August 23 17:02 BST (UK)
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Many thanks for your reply.
I did look at the national archives and as you say his records aren't freely available.  Hopefully they might be soon

As I said, start with the MoD
Title: Re: Leonard j elphick
Post by: Jcutting on Saturday 05 August 23 17:14 BST (UK)
He served in WW1 with Royal West Kent regiment  17527.

In recruitment registers for East Surrey regiment in 1920, Discharged in 1932. 6134433 (EDIT looks like service could have been continuous)

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/4865/images/40816_1831101883_1517-00154-r00077

(2 pages)
Thank you.  That's great .
Title: Re: Leonard j elphick
Post by: ALAMO2008 on Saturday 05 August 23 17:15 BST (UK)
Leoonard James Elphick Born December Quarter 1896 Chertsey Mother's Maiden Name = Potter
British War Medal and Victory Medal awarded under East Surrey Regt as Pte but he later became Sgt
Married Phyllis in 1937 Marriage Certificate Copy on Ancestry
He is also on 1939 Register on Ancestry and loads more
Title: Re: Leonard j elphick
Post by: Jcutting on Saturday 05 August 23 18:43 BST (UK)
Leoonard James Elphick Born December Quarter 1896 Chertsey Mother's Maiden Name = Potter
British War Medal and Victory Medal awarded under East Surrey Regt as Pte but he later became Sgt
Married Phyllis in 1937 Marriage Certificate Copy on Ancestry
He is also on 1939 Register on Ancestry and loads more
Thank you.
 That's really interesting.  I will pop in to our local library during the week and have a look on ancestry.  I live miles away from the nearest town so have to pick my moment . Thanks again .