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Dear Listers
I' trying to locate the family of Roy Summers who was born in Bristol 20/1/30
Roy married Eileen Brown Dec 1954 in Bilston.
Eileen was born 3/9/1931 in Wolverhampton and I think her mother's name was Flukes.
Believe Roy's mothers' maiden name was Hazell.
Trying to find out who his parents and grandparents were and where they got married and lived.
Any help would be really appreciated
Thanks
Drobbo
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Hi Drobbo :) ,
Is anyone you've named in your post still living? If they are, or if you don't know - you post needs to be amended to remove their names and birth details , as it's against Rootschat rules (security & privacy).
You can find his birth registration here (need to register - bur free to search after that - and you will confirm his middle name.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp#Results
Then search here, confirm his mother's maiden name:
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
You'll also be able to confirm 2 siblings names on FreeBMD.
Have you any idea at all of his parents names - SUMMERS - HAZELL - or any details of them at all?
Cheers
AMBLY
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Hi AMBLY - noone is still living and thanks for your reply
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Hello again Ambly
Sorry I don't have names at this stage of the parents or grandparents - was thinking of looking at census for 1931 to see if this will help but then realised they were lost or destroyed in the war.
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His full name was Roy Aland Summers mmn Hazell and there is this marriage of likely parents.
1926 Ashton, Somerset
Harold Summers & Christine D K Hazell
Newspaper announcement (free search only) give his name as Harold Aland Summers
Western Daily Press 26th June 1926
There is also a likely brother A J born 1935 and with Harold and Christine on the 1939 Register.
Possible death in 2016 for brother but not certain. Also maybe closed records in 1939, I only have free search.
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Not sure if this will work:
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01skv/
Friday June 25th, 1926, Western Daily Press, Bristol
All Saints Church, Long Ashton, wedding took place yesterday
Harold Aland Summers, son of Mr & Mrs F Summers of 47 Greville Road, Southville, and
Miss Christine Dorothy Hazell the only daughter of Mr & Mrs Charles Hazell of Glebe Road, Long Ashton
Harold Aland Harding SUMMERS 22 Mar 1901, registered June Qtr 1901, mms HARDING
He died 1964, Probale Calendar lookup here:
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#calendar
Family Search - 1911 lookup here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X71X-4WD
Cheers
AMBLY
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Ambly, it worked perfectly.
1901 Harold as Infant Summers
www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSV1-8HR
1901 Victor as grandson
www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSV1-ZGP
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Harold's parents - Roy's paternal grandparents
MARRIAGE 26 February 1895, Parish Church, Bradford on Avon, Wilts
Frederick Summers 32, Bachelor, Farrier, of 7 St Margaret's Place. Father Henry Aland Summers, Coal Merchant
Emily Florence Harding 27, Spinster, of Junction Road. Father Thomas Alfred Harding, Retired Officer RN
Witness: Thomas Alfred Harding. Ellen ?Eccles??
1901: 6 Iona Terrace, Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire
Head: Frederick Summers 39, Farrier & --------, Employer, b Bradford, Wilts
Wife: Emily F Summers, 33, b Watford, Herts
Son: Infant not yet named (under 1 mo), b Bradford, Wilts
Nurse: Elizabeth E Tiley 56, widow, Monthly Nurse Sick, own account, b Chippenden, Wilts
Servant: Eliza Mould 14, General Servant Domestic, b Warley Somerset
Cheers
AMBLY
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1939 registration Bilston Staffordshire
Margaret Brown born 3 December 1904
Eileen Brown born 3 September 1931
Registration FreeBMD
Brown, Eileen September quarter 1931 Wolverhampton vol 6B page 893
Registration
Arthur Brown married Margaret Flukes April 1930 -Dudley Worcs vol 6b page 2067
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You will need to get the marriage certificate to find out his father's name and the witnesses
With a name like Arthur Brown difficult to pin down
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Free search of 1921 census
Glebe Road, Long Ashton
Charles Hazell 1866 Long Ashton
Alice Matilda Hazell 1872 Upton St Leonards, Gloucestershire
Victor Sydney Hazell 1899 Gloucester
Christine O Hazell 1903 Long Ashton
Edward E Hall 1841 Gloucester
Marriage of Charles & Alice Matilda
www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=R_21317993415%2F2
Transcription available with free account
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Margaret Flukes parents are Alfred Henry Flukes married Hannah Simcox 1894 West Bromwich
1911 census (transcribed as Hukes on ancestry)
73 John Street, Ettingshall.
Alfred H Flukes 39 Iron Moulder born Wolverhampton
Hannah 40 born West Bromwich
John Thomas 15
Leonard 13
Elizabeth 11 born Lanarkshire Scotland
Alfred W 9 born Lanarkshire Scotland
**Margaret 6 born Wolverhampton
Hannah 4
Lilian Irene 1
Hannah says she has had 7 children 6 living 1 deceased I believe the one that died was possibly in Scotland as I have found all the others on FreeBMD and the GRO index
You can find Elizabeth and Alfred W and possibly one other on Scotland's People ( I don't have access.
All with mother's maiden name Simcox GRO Index
John Thomas 1895 West Bromwich
Leonard 1897 West Bromwich
Moves to Scotland
Margaret 1905 Wolverhampton
Hannah 1907 Wolverhampton
Lilian Irene 1910 Wolverhampton
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Find a Grave
Merridale Cemetery, Wolverhampton
Alfred Henry Flukes died 7 August 1949
Hannah Flukes 1869- 13 August 1952
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Found them 1901 Lanarkshire Scotland
Alfred Flukes 30
Hannah 30
John 6
Leonard 4
Lizzie 16 months
Address 34 Shieldmuir
Parents transcribed correctly as Flukes, children are under Fluker
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Thanks everyone for your superb assistance! :)
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1939 registration
Alfred H Flukes born 29 June 1872
Hannah born 17 September 1869
John T 26 September 1895
Elizabeth Carrier 3 December 1899 -married Percy H Carrier 1925 reg. Dudley Staffs.
(this is daughter Lizzie who was 16 months old in 1901 census)
Joan Doreen Carrier 12 March 1929 - married Wainright
Find a Grave
Elizabeth Carrier died 14 October 1971 buried Bilston Cemetery
On the same stone is daughter Joan Doreen Carrier Wainright 1929-2014
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Percy Harold Carrier died 1929 age 29
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Thank you again for your help
Is it easy to trace the Summers family line back further via BMD and Census records?
I don't have access to Ancestry or Find My Past and not sure how you go about this?
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Hi - I've got access to Ancestry for a trial and managed to locate the relevant census records back to 1841. Does the Gloucester OPC site enable searching back before census records began? I have a William Summers (aged 30) for instance in 1841 married to Elizar (25) living in Bremhill. Interested to see if the line can go back further - baptism, marriage records perhaps?
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Frederick Summers (father of Harold) in 1881
www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q278-L5V3
All children have mmn Jotham or Lotham
Marriage of Henry & Eliza
www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXQQ-CXC
I would suggest getting a free account with FindMyPast if you don't have one. You can find out quite a bit for free. If you build a tree on Ancestry you will still be able to access it after your trial. Remember to download any images before time is up.
The 1921 census I posted in reply 9, there is an Edward E Hall with the family. I think he may be Emanuel Hale, father of Alice Matilda Hale (mother Of Christine Hazell) He is Edward or Edward E on some census entries and there is this death.
Edward Emanuel Hale 96
June 1934 Long Ashton
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Thank you
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The Glos OPC site will certainly help with searching before 1837, but not so much in this case as Bremhill is in Wiltshire :)
William and Eliza have two children born after 1837 so the first thing to try is their birth certificates. The GRO's online index shows them both, with mother's maiden name Rivers. The eldest child is 8 so you want to look for a marriage 9 or 10 years earlier. The Wiltshire OPC does have registers for Bremhill so you can look there, but while you have access to Ancestry that's easier and gives you an image of the record as well. William Summers, of Bremhill, married Eliza Rivers from Seend at Bremhill on 20 Oct 1832.
Ancestry also has over a hundred member's trees that include William and family. You can ignore them if you want the fun of doing it all yourself. If you do use them, bear in mind that they are invariably full of mistakes, double check everything.
Happy hunting
David
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Thanks David