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Title: Baptism/christening records POINTON
Post by: Ruthxxx on Thursday 31 August 23 20:21 BST (UK)
I have a William Pointon (1841-1900) in my tree. He had a large family and relocated to Sculcoates or Southcoates with his wife Selina Marston. He then somehow made his way (undocumented) with his two eldest sons to Canada/the States and started a new family. This has been confirmed by DNA as I was dubious.
Anyway, Selina went on to have 3 more children and I'd love to know if they were baptised and who was named as the father.
They are
Beatrice Gill Pointon (July 1885-1900)
Albert Pointon (February 1887-1887)
&
Florence Pointon (21st July 1888-1961)
If anyone has access to this information which doesn't seem to be online, I'd be very interested.
Title: Re: Baptism/christening records POINTON
Post by: Comberton on Thursday 31 August 23 21:33 BST (UK)
You can now get digital images for some births and deaths from the GRO, available to download immediately. They cost £2.50 each. You have to search the GRO for the record and click the circle next to the name for the options available. These 3 births are all available as digital images.

www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/menu.asp
Title: Re: Baptism/christening records POINTON
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 31 August 23 22:15 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat

The middle name Gill may be a possible clue to the fathers name but no guarantees

Christenings could take many months after the birth - or not at all.  It is also unlikely you would find the fathers name on either the birth cert or the christening record

In the absence of any online christening record it could be difficult
Title: Re: Baptism/christening records POINTON
Post by: Ruthxxx on Thursday 31 August 23 22:30 BST (UK)
Thank you Comberton, the link isn't playing for me, I'll try again in the morning.
And I'll investigate Gill, Carole as a possibility.
It was church records I was really after but any avenues are worth a view xxx
Title: Re: Baptism/christening records POINTON
Post by: Ruthxxx on Friday 01 September 23 15:06 BST (UK)
I've had a proper look at the GRO site now and bought the digital copy for Florence. Her birth was registered 6 weeks later by the mother who is recorded with a slightly different maiden name, and the father as her husband, even though he was remarried and having children in the US! I'm glad I'm not a direct descendent, I will just have to leave it....and assume that he was going back and forth and was highly fertile! 😃
Thank you again for your help.
Title: Re: Baptism/christening records POINTON
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 01 September 23 15:16 BST (UK)
As she was married to him she could register her childs birth with him as the father, he would not have had to be present.  It would be a different situation with a baptism as both parents would normally be at the church service.  Technically she was still married to him as I doubt they would have divorced.
Title: Re: Baptism/christening records POINTON
Post by: Ruthxxx on Friday 01 September 23 15:21 BST (UK)
Indeed there's no divorce, husband, William was just engaged in bigamy!
 
But there must have been contact because she knew when he'd diedand entered herself as widowed on the 1901 census. I think he may have been a metal worker on-board ships.

Thanks for your input x
Title: Re: Baptism/christening records POINTON
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 01 September 23 17:43 BST (UK)
It is quite common for a woman whose husband has 'left home' to put herself as widowed on census, it would not have to been proved to the enumerator
Title: Re: Baptism/christening records POINTON
Post by: Ruthxxx on Friday 01 September 23 18:00 BST (UK)
Yes, I realise there are opportunities for lying, but in this case he really had died ...
Thanks for your idea though. It's perfectly possible.
Title: Re: Baptism/christening records POINTON
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 01 September 23 19:34 BST (UK)
Re the slightly different maiden name.  Some of the legitimate children also have her maiden name as Mason instead of Marston

William Henry 1864
George b 1871
Betsy 1875 (GRO online transcription is Porriton)
Title: Re: Baptism/christening records POINTON
Post by: Ruthxxx on Saturday 02 September 23 12:10 BST (UK)
I had her name as Mason originally but the parents did seem to be Marston. A Welsh branch of the family use Mason I believe.