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Title: Guerney St Peters Port Birth Records
Post by: jennyrob on Wednesday 27 September 23 10:25 BST (UK)
Is there any possibility I will be able to find a birth record for Henry Charles Augustus Aynge born about 1820 at St Peters Port He didnt stay there by 1861 he was living in Wales on the Gower and was a Coast Guard Thanks Jen
Title: Re: Guerney St Peters Port Birth Records
Post by: maddys52 on Wednesday 27 September 23 10:33 BST (UK)
His marriage record (25 Nov 1844, Sheppey, Kent to Mary Ann LAWSON) says father is George Augustus AYNGE.
Title: Re: Guerney St Peters Port Birth Records
Post by: maddys52 on Wednesday 27 September 23 10:40 BST (UK)
Nice obituary here:
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4166720/4166722/36/aynge

Son of George Augustus AYNGE RA, and grandson of G A AYNGE of Dartmouth Castle.

Modified to add:
A few articles about his wife:
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4110979/4110983/102/aynge   (her 100th birthday)
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4437166/4437174/101/aynge  (death aged 101, and photo)
Title: Re: Guerney St Peters Port Birth Records
Post by: maddys52 on Wednesday 27 September 23 10:43 BST (UK)
There are a couple of Naval records for him on Ancestry which give his date of birth as 4 March 1823 (at St Peter's Port Guernsey).
Title: Re: Guerney St Peters Port Birth Records
Post by: maddys52 on Wednesday 27 September 23 10:50 BST (UK)
This looks like his parents' marriage - 13 April 1818 at St Andrew (presbyterian) Montreal, Quebec, George Augustus AYNGE and Mary Juliana JONES.
Title: Re: Guerney St Peters Port Birth Records
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 27 September 23 13:05 BST (UK)
His Mother is fairly easy to find on English Census 1841-1861.
She uses Julia born c 1797-1801 Canada.
1851 Son Edward is with her ( born c Weymouth, Dorset)
He married 1854 Father Officer in the Army.
By 1861 she is Widowed.
Title: Re: Guerney St Peters Port Birth Records
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 27 September 23 13:12 BST (UK)
Maybe George and children in 1841 Census;
Fieldgate St?
St Mary Whitechapel
George Aynge 40 N P
Rosalie 13
Edward 10
All not born in County

1841 Julia Annge 40 is with a Mary Smith.
Title: Re: Guerney St Peters Port Birth Records
Post by: maddys52 on Thursday 28 September 23 07:21 BST (UK)
Meant to add yesterday, that whilst I'm not familiar with Guerney Parish Records, there is this familysearch article about them:
https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Guernsey_Church_Records

and the Island Arhives website here:
https://gov.gg/islandarchives
Title: Re: Guerney St Peters Port Birth Records
Post by: jennyrob on Thursday 28 September 23 10:09 BST (UK)
Thank you everyone So grateful for you help Have given me lots to work on Thanks Jen
Title: Re: Guerney St Peters Port Birth Records
Post by: jennyrob on Monday 09 October 23 12:11 BST (UK)
It looks like Henry Charles Augustus Aynge bt1824  was born in St Peters Port Guernsey and his father was Lieutenant George Aynge in Royal Artillery and  Conductor of Stores
 He married in !841 in city of London to Mary Ann Scott It appears however that he was prevously married to Mary Julianna in Quebec Canada 1816
George father was said to be George  Master Gunner at Dartmouth Castle
Anyone tell me where to look for very old army records Thanks Jen
Title: Re: Guerney St Peters Port Birth Records
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 10 October 23 02:15 BST (UK)
George Augustus AYNGE also married Mary RICHER in 1859 after Mary (nee SCOTT) died in 1857.

Death of Mary AYNGE at Whittlesey Jun qtr 1857 (3b/370)

Marriage of George Augustus AINGE and Mary RICHER at Whittlesey Mar qtr 1859 (3b/801).

As Trish says, George is in London in the 1841 census:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQVR-G6Z

in 1851 he is in the Isle of Ely
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGCR-3VL

in 1861 at Newchurch, Lancs
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7LS-DJD

George is buried 29 Sept 1866 at Newchurch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-65BC-35?i=169&cc=1788853&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQK1H-W61H

And his baptism was at Newcastle upon Tyne 30 Mar 1797, parents George and Jane.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J77N-KQ2

Title: Re: Guerney St Peters Port Birth Records
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 10 October 23 03:00 BST (UK)
There are many items about George Augustus AYNGE in the newspapers over the years.

Insolvent in 1832 "policeman No. 60 of the K division" of 16 Paradise Row, Bethnal Green.

In 1836 he is Quarter Master Sergeant Spanish Dept, British Marine Artillery (can't quite read this one properly)

Many about his time in the police force in the Isle of Ely, he seems to have retired due to ill health in Nov 1851 after 9 years service.

In 1852 he is described as a Schoolmaster in Whittlesey, "formerly an officer on the staff of the British Ordnance corps and subsequently of the Spanish Legion Artillery" (he has a flute made from the arm bone of one of his legion!)

In Jan 1856 his sister Isabella is married and he is noted as "field train RA, camp before Sebastopol".

In Oct 1856 he returns to Whittlesey and there is an account of the "trophies" he has brought home from the Crimean war.

Happy to copy articles if you'd like them and don't have access.
Title: Re: Guerney St Peters Port Birth Records
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 10 October 23 03:08 BST (UK)
I can't see anything about a divorce from the first marriage to Mary Juliana (Julia) nee JONES. She is definitely alive after his 2nd marriage to Mary Ann SCOTT (where he says he is a bachelor).  :-\

Julia AYNGE:
1841 census in Clerkenwell:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQVX-XC6

1851 (with son Edward) in Lambeth
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGTZ-CYC

1861 in All Hallows (with daughter Isabella)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2ML-QGZT

She dies in 1863:
Julia AYNGE  Mar qtr 1863 Shoreditch (1c/111) aged 64
Title: Re: Guerney St Peters Port Birth Records
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 10 October 23 03:12 BST (UK)
There is also a nice newspaper snippet about George AYNGE snr master gunner, Royal Staff Corps meeting Prince Albert in 1847. Reported in many newspapers eg
   Monday,  Aug. 16, 1847
Publication: The Standard
Title: Re: Guerney St Peters Port Birth Records
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 10 October 23 09:16 BST (UK)
For interest - George AYNGE married Jane BRUCE 5 May 1794 at Greenwich.
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5ac29f8ff493fd2a4c677dbc

(From the image on Ancestry, I read the witnesses as Robert MEDHURST, Charles BRUCE and Margaret ------- (difficult to read).

George AYNGE died in 1848, Sept qtr Totnes (9/305) aged 67.
His death was noted in various newspapers "Monthly Military Obituary ... Commisariat Department ... First Lieut. Com. Aynge, late Royal Artillery Drivers"
eg    Saturday,  Feb. 10, 1849
Publication: John Bull

Jane AYNGE died Dec qtr 1854 Totnes (5b/127), aged 70.
Title: Re: Guerney St Peters Port Birth Records
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 10 October 23 09:36 BST (UK)
Some military notices from newspapers:

"Office of Ordnance, Oct. 22
Royal Artillery Drivers ____ Aynge, Gent to be Second Lieutenant, vice Brisac, resigned."
26 Oct 1812
Publication: The Sun

"Office of Ordnance, Jan. 20
Corps of Royal Artillery Drivers
Second Lieutenant George Aynge to be First Lieutenant, vice G. Oliver, deceased. Dated Jan. 6, 1813"
27 Jan 1813
Publication: The Star
Title: Re: Guerney St Peters Port Birth Records
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 10 October 23 09:51 BST (UK)
Also in the National Archives is this document:
"Description of soldiers on joining Royal Horse Artillery."

"Line 13: George AYNGE of Soldiers Unit 1 Battalion. Born Chatham, Kent. Enlisted 1786 aged 13 years. Note: Transferred 1812. "

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C13457656
Title: Re: Guerney St Peters Port Birth Records
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 10 October 23 10:03 BST (UK)
George AYNGE baptised Chatham, Kent 9 May 1773, parents John and Elizabeth.
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5818450be93790ec8b0b4b6b
Title: Re: Guerney St Peters Port Birth Records
Post by: jennyrob on Wednesday 11 October 23 11:49 BST (UK)
Maddy Thankyou so much from all your info on Mr Aynge

 I would be so grateful to have articles re George or if you can tell me how to access it Thanks Jen
Title: Re: Guerney St Peters Port Birth Records
Post by: maddys52 on Thursday 12 October 23 03:58 BST (UK)
Happy to help. I'll send you a pm.

I was thinking yesterday that it might be a good idea to put a post on the Armed Forces board. More knowlegeable people over there with access to military records.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/armed-forces/
Title: Re: Guerney St Peters Port Birth Records
Post by: jennyrob on Thursday 12 October 23 10:47 BST (UK)
Brilliant Thanks