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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: Lensmeister on Friday 10 November 23 15:50 GMT (UK)
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I have six Catholic Latin entries for baptism.
Please can some help and translate them please
St. Patrick's Soho Square.
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Second batch
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First one
Julia, daughter of William Quinlan & Mary, formerly Mitchell
born 21 March 1841 & baptized 4 April 1841
godparents were Jack Quinlan & Catherine Cane.
Second one
Catherine, daughter of William Quinlan & Mary, formerly Mitchell
born 21 March 1841 & baptized 4 April 1841
godparents were Patrick Carroll & Mary Roberts.
Third one is the same as second one
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The married couple William Quinlan & Mary Mitchell had twice twin girls.
Fourth one
Jane, daughter of William Quinlan & Mary Mitchell
born 22 May 1848 & baptized 5 Juny 1848
godparents were Thomas Quinlan & Jane Lynch
Sixth one
Anna, daughter of William Quinlan & Mary Mitchell
born 22 May 1848 & baptized 5 Juny 1848
godparents were Jack Lynch & Anna Shanahan.
Fifth one
John, son of William Quinlan & Mary, formerly Mitchell
born 26 July 1844 & baptized 11 August 1844
godparents were John Williams? & Mary Roach.
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I agree with Williams in number 5.
In 1 and 6, Jacobus would be James, rather than Jack.
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Amazing thank you very much everyone :)
I named and attached the wrong one .
Can I beg for this one please?
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In 1 and 6, Jacobus would be James, rather than Jack.
I didn't know that. I'm not familiar with the English equivalents of all Latin names (I usually have to 'translate' them in French or Dutch)
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The last one you posted is odd, and needs an explanation.
Bridget, daughter of William Quinlan & Mary, formerly Mitchell
born 12 March 1841 & baptized 31 March 1841
godparents were Jack Quinlan & Catherine Rune?
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Amazing thank you
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With regard to Bridget Julia - I wonder if she was the twin Julia. The Godparents are the same.
Are the records from the same page in the baptismal records?
Maybe they were written up separately and the name was annotated wrongly.
It may be that Julia was sickly and baptised earlier.
You would need to check the twins’ birthdates on the birth certificates.
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The last one you posted is odd, and needs an explanation.
Bridget, daughter of William Quinlan & Mary, formerly Mitchell
born 12 March 1841 & baptized 31 March 1841
godparents were Jack Quinlan & Catherine Rune?
I think the last godparent may be Catherine Kane Regards Orkrad
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The last one you posted is odd, and needs an explanation.
Bridget, daughter of William Quinlan & Mary, formerly Mitchell
born 12 March 1841 & baptized 31 March 1841
godparents were Jack Quinlan & Catherine Rune?
I think the last godparent may be Catherine Kane Regards Orkrad
Yes they are James Quinlan and Catherine Kane, the same as in the first one. Looking at the dates of birth in them, there is an error somewhere.
The entries also end "a me" = "by me", then the signature of the person who baptised the child. The first and last ones have the signatures of different people.
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I guess the date of birth is just an error.
Can we rule out the possibility of triplets?
Bridget, being the weakest of the three, could have been baptised earlier. If she died before the 4th of April, her godparents (James & Catherine) could now be responsible for Julia.
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This is the full sheets of the baptisms.
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The mystery remains. Did you check the possibility of triplets with Bridget passing away between her baptism and that of the other two?
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There doesn’t seem to be a birth or death record for Bridget.
It is possible that the digits were transposed as 12 rather than 21.
She may have been a sickly baby and baptised earlier than her twin but then she shouldn't have been baptised later but a different priest might not have known that.
Alternatively, Catherine may not have been well enough to baptise earlier - although sickness would be all the more reason to hold the ceremony.
I suppose the birth certificate would just show Julia as the name.
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There’s nothing to indicate that the mysterious Bridget was Bridget Julia. After the Latin version of “Bridget” there is “filia”, daughter.
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Oh thank you. I remeber thinking that and correcting myself - I do read Latin and should have checked again! Sorry.
My theory falls then but perhaps the name was changed between the two baptisms.
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I've taken a closer look at the full page. The first 3 entries are by Darcy, all the rest by Norris. They are written in chronological order of baptism. Norris had a busy day at work that sunday 4th of April 1841. At least 9 newborns queued to get baptised.
This however gives no clues as to which day of birth is correct.