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Title: Mary ann pain/ Altree
Post by: philrmoon on Tuesday 05 December 23 19:30 GMT (UK)

Hi can anyone help me research a mary ann pain  married 1 St a William altree 1823 in the Bristol area of Gloucestershire   unfortunately William died not long after they married, 

She then married again ad mary ann altree in Bristol District a Thomas Southard in 1828

They moved to live in the Whitchurch herefordshire unfortunately she died 1843

I am trying to find mary ann's parents please

Any information welcome 😊

Best wishes Phil

Title: Re: Mary ann pain/ Altree
Post by: ColC on Tuesday 12 December 23 12:43 GMT (UK)

Is this the family in 1841?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M776-JR7

Colin

Title: Re: Mary ann pain/ Altree
Post by: ColC on Tuesday 12 December 23 12:57 GMT (UK)

If the 1841 is correct, this is the nearest I can find 5 miles from Bristol. (Freereg)

Mary Anne PAIN   Birth 11 Apr 1796   Baptism 8 May 1796      

Long Ashton: All Saints: Somerset Other Transcript

Parents John & Sarah

Title: Re: Mary ann pain/ Altree
Post by: philrmoon on Tuesday 12 December 23 13:16 GMT (UK)

Hi

That's correct

Thanks for replying

And for your help

Regards Phil

Title: Re: Mary ann pain/ Altree
Post by: philrmoon on Wednesday 13 December 23 13:38 GMT (UK)

Hi again

Seems that the Mary ann pain you found b in long Ashton Somerset May be the incorrect on

There is 16 family trees 🌳 with the person who have researched the Same family  ?? From long Ashton

Seems if that particular person married in 1819 a Joseph Fisher  and had 8 children together

The one I have in my family was b 1800 ??

Married in Bristol Gloucestershire 1823 a altree ( he could have died before 1828 )

Because a mary ann altree married again in Bristol Gloucestershire 1828 a Thomas Southard 

They moved to Whitchurch herefordshire where they had further children she unfortunately died in 1843 monmouthshire

Best wishes Phil

Back to the drawing board  ??

Title: Re: Mary ann pain/ Altree
Post by: ColC on Thursday 14 December 23 16:53 GMT (UK)

Mary Ann was noted as 43 on the death registration in 1843, so providing that and the census are both correct 1800 seems to be the year of birth. I do not see the marriage on family search or freereg, did the original record or census give a clue to County of birth?
Did Mary Ann & William have any children?

Colin

Title: Re: Mary ann pain/ Altree
Post by: philrmoon on Thursday 14 December 23 17:21 GMT (UK)

Mary ann pain m in Bristol Gloucestershire 1820

They had a child named William Turnberry altree b 1825 ???

Best wishes Phil

Title: Re: Mary ann pain/ Altree
Post by: ColC on Friday 15 December 23 11:09 GMT (UK)

The marriage is on family search but you originally posted 1823.
I note both parish records are on Ancestry and I guess your tree, have you checked the original records and Mary Ann’s death registration?
 
Mary Ann Pain   Marriage 9 October 1820 Bristol, Gloucestershire   Spouse William Altree

William Turnpenny Altree   Christening 30 July 1826 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Parents William Turnpenny Altree, Mary Ann

Thomas Southard    Marriage 9 November 1828 Bristol, Gloucestershire   Spouse Mary Ann A.

The way things appear you only have the 1841 census, which was rounded down, so born between 1797 - 1801, the baptism may have been later, if there was one and on the death registration, the age is not always reliable it depends who reported the death.

Sorry I cannot help.

Regards Colin

Title: Re: Mary ann pain/ Altree
Post by: philrmoon on Friday 15 December 23 11:21 GMT (UK)

Thanks ever so much Colin

I will post something later today

Best wishes Phil

Have a lovely Xmas 😍

Title: Re: Mary ann pain/ Altree
Post by: philrmoon on Wednesday 20 December 23 02:32 GMT (UK)

In the 1841 census Whitchurch herefordshire England on the doward,  sandy ways

A William altree aged 15 a apprentice joiner is living with a joiner ( a worker of wood)

I can't find him after this in the censuses or any other record,  can anybody put some light  on his whereabouts, his name in this census is misspelled  ??

Best wishes Phil