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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Berkshire => Topic started by: ribbo39 on Sunday 07 January 24 08:59 GMT (UK)
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Hi all,
I'm looking for a Martha Poffley born about 1821 in either Eastbury or Lambourn areas as recorded in the censues. I have her marriage to a Benjamin Excell in 1847 in Ruscombe listing her father as William Poffley, carpenter.
If anyone can help most appreciated.
Alan
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Based on census.
The William Poffley who married Elizabeth Higgins 14 October 1816 at Wickham is a Wheelwright
The William Poffley who married Charlotte Hatt 4 February 1816 at Hungerford is a Labourer.
So William and Elizabeth come closest to occupation Carpenter. I cannot find a baptism for any females
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Hi amondg,
As you say, I believe that William Poffley- m -Elizabeth Higgins may be the parents but haven't been able to find Martha's birth/baptism. I have found a John bapt. 1817 & Henry bapt. 1825 but nothing much in between. I wonder if they moved to another county for a while.
Thanks for your help.
Alan
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Ellen Poffley bap. 4 August 1844 at Lambourn mother Martha Poffley
She later goes by Ellen Poffley Excell and marries John Thomas Clements 1874.
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Still checking newspapers
Reading Mercury 25 November 1899.
On 19th instant Benjamin Excell age 76 beloved husband of Martha.
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Do you think they became non conformist for a while?
Benjamin Excell was Non Conformist.
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Of William and Elizabeth all at East Garston
John 1817
Henry 1825
Alfred 1829
William 1833
John 1838.
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Berkshire Chronicle 27 November 1869
Three well dressed men, William Poffley, Henry Poffley and John Poffley, were charged with allowing their mother to be chargeable to the Hungerford Union.
Paraphrased. All of them are carpenters.
Is this referring to Elizabeth Poffley?
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baptisms at East Garston:
10 August 1823 Thomas s/o William and Elizabeth Poughly of East Bury father labourer
14 June 1829 Alfred s/o William and Elizabeth Poffley of East Bury father wheelwright
at Lambourne:
22 February 1838 John s/o William and Elizabeth Poffley of Eastbury father wheelwright
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Well thats the Martha - she marries Benjamin Excell in 1847 Ruscombe at an age of 26.
Benjamin Excell was born 1823 in Barkham and his birth registered in the Protestant Dissenters Register (s/o Job & Frances). So there is an element of non-conformity.
As as Elizabeth Poffley goes - she was in the Hungerford W/House in 1871 (aged 67) as a widow.
Alan
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One of the witnesses at the marriage was Sarah Poffley, have you traced her? Possible sister
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1841
Eastbury, Lambourn
William, Elizabeth and presumed children including Sarah
Piece number 22, Book number 4, Folio number 7, Page number 9
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From census Elizabeth is not bic, possibly earlier children baptised in her home village or town
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1861 census says she's born Marlborough Wilts
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Sarah Poffley d/o William p occ wheelwright married John Dore at East Garston on 01 Nov 1851. Henry Poffley was one of the witnesses. The other is transcribed as "Harrat ?"
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Sarah is on 1851 census as servant to Simmons family in Newbury. Her pob is East Garston abt 1825
Piece number 1685, Folio 200, Page 2
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Who are the witnesses when Martha married Benjamin Excell, any possible relatives?
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Who are the witnesses when Martha married Benjamin Excell, any possible relatives?
see my reply #8
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1841 census Eastbury
William Poffley 46 Wheelwright
Elizabeth 45
Henry 16
SARAH 14
William 8
John 3
I already posted this on reply #9
I DON'T KNOW WHY I BOTHER
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Thank you all for your valuable help.
Even with your extra sets of eyes, Martha's bapt. is still a mystery.
In 1851 & 61 she lists Lambourn and in the remaining censuses Eastbury as her place of birth.
It had occurred to me that perhaps she was the d/o a single mother and her baptism recorded under her
mother's name and/or before her parents married - just a thought .
Sarah Poffley I have found in the 1841 census for Lambourn (the d/o William & Elizabeth) and she married a John Dore in 1851 Hungerford Dist.
However, I have not been able to find even Sarah's baptism either, so I'm wondering if they were baptised at all.
Alan
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Eastbury was part of the parish of Lambourn, so the information from the censuses is consistent. In addition to the main church of St. Michael's, Lambourn, you should bear the following in mind:
Eastbury: a Wesleyan chapel, founded in 1814
Lambourn: a Wesleyan chapel, founded pre-1800
(source: NIPR, Vol. 8, Part 1: Berkshire, S.O.G., 1989)
Apart from St. Michael's, these were the only two which were founded before 1821 (your estimated year of birth). Any registers for them should have been handed over in 1837.
So, if it were my family, I would check these two Wesleyan chapels, after first double-checking St. Michael's.