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Title: Advice please
Post by: tomm on Monday 12 February 24 13:33 GMT (UK)

Hi folks

I have a Edward J Allum
                              1901 Census
185   Edwd J Allum   Head  24  1877  Male  London England.
Anc*  is offering the above person as Edward J Allum/ Meale. George Foster Meale 1860 1940
as his father.
Your thoughts please.

Regards
Tom
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 12 February 24 13:45 GMT (UK)
Have you checked other censuses?
Or his Birth Registration?
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: softly softly on Monday 12 February 24 14:06 GMT (UK)
Looks as though he was illegitimate, mother Ann set up home with Robert Foster Meale


ALLUM, JOSEPH  EDWARD     - 

GRO Reference: 1876  M Quarter in KENSINGTON  Volume 01A  Page 172

Ann possibly married in 1874

Marriages Jun 1874   
ALLUM    Ann        Kensington    1a   182    
Pharo    Joseph        Kensington    1a   182

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Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: softly softly on Monday 12 February 24 14:11 GMT (UK)
Marriages Jun 1882   image on Ancestry

ALLUM    Ann Susan        Kensington    1a   71    
MEALE    Robert        Kensington    1a   71    

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Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: LizzieW on Monday 12 February 24 14:15 GMT (UK)
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Anc*  is offering the above person as Edward J Allum/ Meale. George Foster Meale 1860 1940
as his father.

Do you mean that is what is shown on someone's family tree?  If so I would take it with a pinch of salt until you have done the research yourself, or check what people on here have found for you.  Many of the trees on Ancestry are just thrown together with the first name that fits, without any real research being done.

Lizzie
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: softly softly on Monday 12 February 24 15:19 GMT (UK)
tomm, are you trying to follow backwards Edward Joseph Allum who died in 1947.

ALLUM, EDWARD  JOSEPH     aged 71 
GRO Reference: 1947  S Quarter in KENSINGTON  Volume 05C  Page 841

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Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 12 February 24 15:53 GMT (UK)
The marriage entry for Edward Joseph Allum and Ellen Delay is available on Ancestry:

18 April 1897 - Holy Trinity, Hammersmith

Edward Joseph Allum, 21, Labourer.  Father:  Robert (deceased)
Ellen Delay, 18.  Father:  Frederick, Cellarman
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: softly softly on Monday 12 February 24 16:40 GMT (UK)
According to 1939 Edward's dob is the 20.2.1876. By 1881 his mother Ann is living with Robert Meale whom marry the following year. This marriage image on Anc*, names Ann Susan Allum's father as Edward Allum-Carman. Ann Susan Allum born jq 1856 with mmn Bates. Edward Allum married Marian Bates dq 1846 Image on Anc*

Not sure why Edward when he marries in 1897 records Robert as "deceased" He did not die until 1926. Ann Susan Meale died 1900 aged 44

Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 12 February 24 16:44 GMT (UK)
If the marriage entry I submitted is correct, then Edward Joseph served in WW1 and details of that entry are repeated.  4 children named:

James Frederick - 14 January 1905
William Charles - 18 December 1912
Lilian Irene - 8 August 1915
Ellen Margery - 17 January 1919

Images available on FindMyPast.
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: softly softly on Monday 12 February 24 16:48 GMT (UK)
1871 census abode Marys Place as per Edwards birthpace

Piece   41 Folio   69  Page number   26

Mary A Allum 44 Head
William C Allum 19 Son
Ann S Allum   15   Daughter

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Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: tomm on Monday 12 February 24 18:14 GMT (UK)
HI folks

Thank you all for all your help and advice Re Edward J Allum.
I saw that there was a hint by his name and opened it, hence I saw the name Meale
beside Allum and thought I would seek your thoughts and advice on the name.

Regards