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Title: Is this the same woman?
Post by: 4kithnkin on Thursday 22 February 24 19:16 GMT (UK)
My Gt grand-uncle John Rowe and his wife Amelia or his wife Inez. The single is Amelia. Can you possibly date the two photos?
Is it the same woman in both pics.

Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Is this the same woman?
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 22 February 24 20:00 GMT (UK)
Very briefly as I have to go off for a while -

I think they are different as the one has a 'widow's peak' and the other doesn't.

Also, they look Edwardian.* see beloe re first image.

What dates were the marriages?

Gadget
Title: Re: Is this the same woman?
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 22 February 24 20:49 GMT (UK)
I think the first photo is mid-1890s. I think the sleeves are of that era.
Title: Re: Is this the same woman?
Post by: 4kithnkin on Thursday 22 February 24 21:23 GMT (UK)
Ok thanks,

Amelia married in 1880. Inez in 1898
Title: Re: Is this the same woman?
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 22 February 24 21:27 GMT (UK)
Different ladies, top one is fairer with light eyes and looks like a famous actress, the bottom one is dark hair and eyes.
Title: Re: Is this the same woman?
Post by: 4kithnkin on Thursday 22 February 24 21:33 GMT (UK)
The question too is John Rowe was 27 at his first marriage and 47 at his second marriage. I cannot guess his age in the photo.
Title: Re: Is this the same woman?
Post by: 4kithnkin on Thursday 22 February 24 21:38 GMT (UK)
Different ladies, top one is fairer with light eyes and looks like a famous actress, the bottom one is dark hair and eyes.

Thank you both, I thought it might be the second wife Inez in the first photo because of the fair hair and light eyes, however, when a widow's peak is parted, it resembles the hair in the first photo. (I have the same hairline). Hoping that with your opinions it is the second wife's photo to add to the tree. Kate
Title: Re: Is this the same woman?
Post by: 4kithnkin on Thursday 22 February 24 21:45 GMT (UK)
Amelia and John divorced in 1892 in the US. Perhaps the fashion was a little later than Eastern Europe. That
Title: Re: Is this the same woman?
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 22 February 24 21:48 GMT (UK)
He doesn’t look 47 to me so I would go for 27.
Title: Re: Is this the same woman?
Post by: 4kithnkin on Thursday 22 February 24 21:50 GMT (UK)
Thanks, however, in that case he would be sitting with his first wife Amelia in the first pic.
Title: Re: Is this the same woman?
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 22 February 24 22:13 GMT (UK)
He looks much older than 27 - nearer to 30s/early 40s. Maybe he was one of those men who looks younger.

Gadget

Sleeves of lady are  mid- late 1890s.
Title: Re: Is this the same woman?
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 22 February 24 22:23 GMT (UK)
Do you have the backs that you could put up? The second pic could be earlier - it depends if its a blouse or a dress!

Ive asked Carol for her estimates.

Add  - see the lady in the middle row, left.

https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~victorianphotographs/history/date/a1885.htm
Title: Re: Is this the same woman?
Post by: McGroger on Friday 23 February 24 01:12 GMT (UK)
Clearly different women.

Available records give John’s birth year 1853-1855, so 25-27 at his first marriage to Susan Amelia Scammons (who would have been just 17), and 43-45 at his second marriage to Inez Fay who would have been about 43.

I think this supports Gadget’s dating, i.e., it’s Inez with John in the first picture.

Peter
Title: Re: Is this the same woman?
Post by: 4kithnkin on Friday 23 February 24 04:49 GMT (UK)
Thank you all!

Kate
Title: Re: Is this the same woman?
Post by: Treetotal on Friday 23 February 24 13:18 GMT (UK)
Yes I agree with Gadget too, I saw this earlier but had to go out.
Lovely photos.
Carol
Title: Re: Is this the same woman?
Post by: dobfarm on Sunday 25 February 24 04:57 GMT (UK)
The nose bridge looks similar with a line across but slight differences - the are few similarities like ears
& chin etc--------------- Sisters maybe  ??? :-\