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Title: Great Grandfather
Post by: Welly07 on Tuesday 19 March 24 16:25 GMT (UK)
Hiya , hoping I can get some help tracing my great grandfather William Carroll. Not much is known about him. From the death certificate, he is 69 and died oct 1983. He married Margaret Hennesey in 1944 in Cork city and on a bit of paper we have, his  parents as written as Patrick and Norah Carroll
He is living in Collins barracks and a soldier on marriage certificate in 1944. I'm struggling to find the correct birth date and his daughter my nan, has his name as William Anthony Carroll on her marriage certificate. Please help
Title: Re: Great Grandfather
Post by: Neale1961 on Tuesday 19 March 24 22:04 GMT (UK)
Quote from: Welly07 on Tuesday 19 March 24 16:25 GMT (UK)
He is living in Collins barracks and a soldier on marriage certificate in 1944.
If you have his marriage certificate, there must be more information on it.
His age?
Name and occupation of father?
Religion?
All those things should help trace his birth.
Title: Re: Great Grandfather
Post by: Welly07 on Tuesday 19 March 24 22:11 GMT (UK)
Thank you for the reply

Just says full age , which would be over 21

Catholic and dad was a labourer named Patrick Carroll

I dont know if he was originally from Cork city and don't know a maiden name for his mum as I don't know how to narrow down the search as so many come up with those name
Title: Re: Great Grandfather
Post by: LH on Thursday 21 March 24 08:48 GMT (UK)
Hi

Are these your folk?

See below for the 1944 Marriage of William to Margaret Hennessy.  William’s Father named Patrick, a Labourer.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1944/08757/5164789.pdf


The 1913 Birth of William to Patrick and Nora (McCarthy) in the Union of Kilmallock, Charleville, Cork:-

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01426/1585286.pdf


Also 1912 in the same district, Marriage of Patrick, a Labourer and Norah.  William’s Father named William:-

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01426/1585286.pdf


Title: Re: Great Grandfather
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 21 March 24 09:21 GMT (UK)
Quote from: LH on Thursday 21 March 24 08:48 GMT (UK)
Also 1912 in the same district, Marriage of Patrick, a Labourer and Norah.  William’s Father named William:-

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01426/1585286.pdf
Maybe posted birth again by mistake
Marriage here
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1912/09917/5604799.pdf
Title: Re: Great Grandfather
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 21 March 24 09:25 GMT (UK)
Possibly the Carroll family in 1911 census
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Charleville/Turretts/421938/

1901 census
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Charleville/The_Turretts/1119550/
Title: Re: Great Grandfather
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 21 March 24 09:34 GMT (UK)
Nora McCarthy a little harder to find in 1911 census
maybe here
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Charleville/Ball_s_Lane/421571/

But 1901 census here, and confirms 1911 was correct.
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Charleville/Balls_Lane/1119155/
Title: Re: Great Grandfather
Post by: LH on Thursday 21 March 24 13:46 GMT (UK)
Hi

The 1887 Marriage below of William Carroll to Brigid Linehan - in the same area - lists William’s Father as being another William:-

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1887/10798/5937895.pdf

Title: Re: Great Grandfather
Post by: Welly07 on Thursday 21 March 24 19:57 GMT (UK)
Thank you

Going to printed off so I can get in order , this man  has been a mystery for so long

Thank you again
Title: Re: Great Grandfather
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 21 March 24 21:20 GMT (UK)
Birth entry for Patrick Carroll 1889
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02468/1916798.pdf
Title: Re: Great Grandfather
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 21 March 24 21:36 GMT (UK)
MARRIAGE - Philip McCarthy (24) to Ellen McCarthy (26) in Kilmallock in 1876
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1876/11180/8096732.pdf
His father named John, and her father named Denis
The census shows Philip and Ellen both born in County Limerick


Birth for Hanora McCathy (Nora) 1882 - daughter of Philp and Ellen McCarthy
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02754/2011951.pdf


Son Peter born 1877
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/02992/2096755.pdf
Title: Re: Great Grandfather
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 21 March 24 22:00 GMT (UK)
Quote from: Neale1961 on Thursday 21 March 24 21:36 GMT (UK)

Son Peter born 1877
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/02992/2096755.pdf


Born at The Glen, Charleville.
MapGenie 25 Inch - ITM (1897-1913)
https://arcg.is/1nuGSG0


Title: Re: Great Grandfather
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 26 March 24 07:43 GMT (UK)

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MARRIAGE - Philip McCarthy (24) to Ellen McCarthy (26) in Kilmallock in 1876
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1876/11180/8096732.pdf

Married at Effin RC Church. Both groom and bride living in the townland of Garrencoonagh [sic].

Garrynancoonagh North townland
https://www.townlands.ie/limerick/coshlea/effin/tobernea/garrynancoonagh-north/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5342176#map=12/52.3649/-8.6710