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Title: Fletcher family help required
Post by: fletch001 on Monday 25 March 24 17:13 GMT (UK)
Good Afternoon All,
Researching one of my branches of my FT which i have hit a brick wall on, just hoping someone may be able to help. Details of the person i am trying to find out information on are below.

Name: Robert Fletcher (Possible Shoemaker) born abt 1780 possibly Edinburgh
DoD: Mar 1859 North Leith
He married a Euphen Christie Sep 1803

Trying to find his Father's correct details and also his Mother's name and any details.
Thanking you all for any help you may be able to find
Kind Regards
Mike Fletcher
Title: Re: Fletcher family help required
Post by: RJ_Paton on Monday 25 March 24 17:15 GMT (UK)
Do you have the Death registration details as he died after Civil registration began.

FLETCHER ROBERT, Age 80, Mothers MS CHRISTIE, DoD 1859, GROS Ref  692 / 1 / 52, Leith North
Title: Re: Fletcher family help required
Post by: fletch001 on Monday 25 March 24 17:20 GMT (UK)
Sorry, i do not have is death registration. I have very little information on him.
Regards
Mike
Title: Re: Fletcher family help required
Post by: fletch001 on Monday 25 March 24 17:25 GMT (UK)
Thanks RJ,
That would put his birth around 1779 ish.

Mike
Title: Re: Fletcher family help required
Post by: fletch001 on Monday 25 March 24 17:34 GMT (UK)
Just found Robert Fletcher's death cert on Scotlands people. His fathers name was Peter Fletcher (Master Shoemaker) and his mother's name was Margaret Christie (maiden name).

This is my brick wall Robert's father & mother, i cannot find any details for them.

Hope someone can help further
Kind Regards
Mike Fletcher
Title: Re: Fletcher family help required
Post by: eilthireach on Monday 25 March 24 18:53 GMT (UK)
The 1851 Census returns show Robert Fletcher as born in Kelso, Roxburghshire, and his wife Euphemia as born in Aberdeen.

Robert Fletcher, who was living in The Pleasance (a part of Edinburgh) at the time and Euphemia Christie, daughter of James Christie in the West Port (a part of Edinburgh) gave their names to the Session Clerk in order for the banns to be proclaimed in church. The Session Clerk recorded this under the date of 4 September 1803 (OPR 685/2 Register of Marriages, Parish of St Cuthbert's, Edinburgh). As was common, the date of the marriage itself was not recorded. Euphan was just an old pet form of the name Euphemia.
The 1851 Census returns show a James Fletcher, 33, with no relationship descriptor, in Robert and Euphemia's household in Leith. James, however, appeared to be their son. The OPR Register of Births for Leith North show that a James Richard Fletcher was born 15 August 1817 and baptised 21 September 1817 to Robert Fletcher, shoemaker in Citadel Street and Euphemia Christie

There was a Peter in 1811, also in Leith.

If Robert's mother's name was given as Margaret Christie (Christie?? - same maiden surname as Robert's wife? - certainly not impossible, but it should set alarm bells ringing, just in case the informant did not know with 100% certainty what Robert's mother's maiden surname was but did know that there was a Christie name associated with Robert and the informant thought that that must have been Robert's mother's surname. I'm not seeing a P Fletcher (just use "Name starts with" option, to cover Peter and Patrick) and a Margaret anything marriage anywhere in the expected part of the world around the probable time.

Title: Re: Fletcher family help required
Post by: fletch001 on Tuesday 26 March 24 13:17 GMT (UK)
Hi Eilthireach,
Thank you for your reply,

Robert And Euphen (Euphemia) and forwards of their children are fine. Peter was their first born son, born 1811 and died 1873, he married Agnes Mirk and had 6 children.
It is getting further back to Robert's mother and father who were named on Robert's death cert as Peter Fletcher & Margaret (maiden name) Christie i cannot find any information for.
I did notice the name Christie, but as you say not impossible for two seperate people to marry a Christie.
Many thanks for your help

Regards
Mike
Title: Re: Fletcher family help required
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 26 March 24 17:17 GMT (UK)
Reply removed - different couple
Title: Re: Fletcher family help required
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 26 March 24 17:22 GMT (UK)
What occupation is given for Robert on the death cert
Title: Re: Fletcher family help required
Post by: fletch001 on Wednesday 27 March 24 05:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Carole,
Thank you for your reply, Both Robert and his father Peter were Master Shoemakers as per death cert.

Regards
Mike