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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: dinnen1800 on Tuesday 02 April 24 15:16 BST (UK)
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i have been unable to ever find a birth or baptism record for andrew dinnen i only have one record from a 1841 census stating born hampshire uk but after continuous searching im not too sure that record is correct the history i have of andrew dinnen is marriage 1805 liverpool to a isabella mclaughlin he is listed as a brass founder i beleive his birth was 1787 to 1791 he had 3 children in liverpool and then 4 more in portsea uk where he died in 1853 aged 66 i really hope someone can help as this is a piece of the jigsaw i really would like to complete thanks for reading
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Just for information, link to post about Andrew in Hampshire
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=881543.0
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dinnen1800 - you really need to locate Andrew in the 1851 census. Doing so will help confirm his birthplace, so you can focus your search on any existing birth/baptism record.
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i have never been able to find andrew and his wife isabella in a 1851 census he then passed in 1853
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dinnen1800 - you really need to locate Andrew in the 1851 census. Doing so will help confirm his birthplace, so you can focus your search on any existing birth/baptism record.
We have tried to locate him in Portsea where he was living at the time on the other thread without success
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Thanks rosie i will have to try and search elsewhere but thanks for trying
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I would keep trying in Ireland, you never know :).
I have 2 brass founders married into my extended family living in London around that time, they were both born Scotland but I was lucky they were around for later census.
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Why Ireland? Unless I missed something reading through the 3 pages on previous thread Scotland not Ireland was mentioned as a possibility?
Unfortunately, civil registration in Ireland didn't start until 1864/1845 and most church records pre-1800 don't survive. To check for church records, not all that survive are online, you'll need to have an idea of both religious denomination and location (parish/city if not actual townland/street).
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When Andrew died in 1853 wife Isabella's address was 3, Lower Arundel Street, Landport, Portsea.
Try searching for Andrew and Isabella in other places. They may have briefly traveled somewhere else when the 1851 census was taken.
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all i know is the family religion was anglican a lot of people tell me dinnen is a irish name but others have said scottish so ill try that next
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In Ireland the equivalent would be the Church of Ireland. Unfortunately many of their pre-1880s registered were destroyed in 1920s after being sent to Dublin for safekeeping.
On FreeBMD I can see Dinnen births registered from 1843 onwards so the surname is certainly found in England (there will be earlier records like the baptisms you found, etc.)
You really do need to try and find the 1851 census record in England to see what's given as Andrew's place of birth as suggested here and on previous thread.
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Not finding an Andrew, brass founder & Isabella Dinnan on 1851 census in Hampshire ???
There is this entry BUT completely wrong first names ??? Posting because of the address and not sure about the transcribed surname either so have added a snippet ???
Arundel Street, Portsea, Portsea Island, Hampshire
Augustus Driver Head 1787 Super'd brass founder Liverpool, Lancashire
Abigail Wife 1789 Liverpool, Lancashire
Ann Dau 1824 Portsea, Hampshire
Caroline Dau 1829 Portsea, Hampshire
1851c Piece number 1659 Folio 371 Page 11
Trying to locate this family on 1841 or 1861 census :-\
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Great find, Ladyhawk. Looked for ages previously.
The daughters’ names fit.
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Great find, Ladyhawk. Looked for ages previously.
The daughters’ names fit.
But the Christian names of neither parent do, and nor does the surname.
Three discrepancies.
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You are right of course.
Daughter Caroline is referred to elsewhere as Caroline Augusta so I was thinking that was a connection and this quote from the other thread re Andrew’s death and the address as Ladyhawk mentions too. I will post this latest information on that thread.
Pity that Andrew and Isabella can't be found in the 1851 census. That census record would help confirm Andrew's birthplace.
When Andrew died in 1853 wife Isabella's address was 3, Lower Arundel Street, Landport, Portsea.
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Thank you Ladyhawk and everyone else im still not sure but im also unsure it was a intruiging find the birth date 1787 is spot on age at 1851 census is 64 i know he died 1853 aged 66 so this ties in too he also had daughters ann and caroline and he also was a brass founder i have often found mis spelled names on census records and its strange both daughters surnames are different from the parents on this census is there any more info as to where the census was found please kind regards steve
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just worked it out the DAU after ann and caroline stand for daughters
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I have posted this information on your other thread as Ireland may not be relevant now.
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he also had daughters ann and caroline
Did he name 2 daughters Ann and the first one die :-\
I think that 1851 census is him despite some discrepancies. He signed his marriage with a 'x'. By 1851 he probably could write but who knows. If he needed help with his form then a Hampshire southerner may well have had difficulty understanding his Liverpool accent ;D. Maybe he did try to fill it in but that is how the enumerator read his writing. The enumerators writing of the surname is not exactly clear.
Also posted on your other thread
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