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Title: Mary Ann Wright .. mystery 4Th great grandmother help please
Post by: Emzunicorn01 on Sunday 14 April 24 12:53 BST (UK)
Hi all on this lovely sunny day ..

I have a 4th great Grandmother who goes by Mary Ann Wright born  between 1824 to 1827 . Clapton or Bethnal Green area…

Death is unknown as I’ve found two in Hackney area but not her . She was still alive in 1911 and is in photos for a wedding

Her dad according to her marriage certificate is William wright

In 1847 Mary married Robert Salmon in Hackney London together they have 7 children including my 3rd great grandad John salmon born 1853 .

I have one DNA match to the salmon family . My great aunt tested on ancestry and found lots of confusing unknown maternal matches .

This week we have a new salmon family match and they have shared matches yay ! 🥳

I have noticed a tree on one match who has Susan wright born 1824, dad is William Wright .. now i am very excited for this match :)

 Can someone help me confirm Susan is Mary Anne’s sister please ?? I have been unable to trace Mary Ann’s parents and siblings… I am hoping this is a new breakthrough !

Thanks all
Title: Re: Mary Ann Wright .. mystery 4Th great grandmother help please
Post by: Galium on Sunday 14 April 24 15:11 BST (UK)
Who did Susan Wright marry?

I have been looking for marriages of people named Wright with a father named William, who is also a gardener, as Mary Ann's father is.  So far only found Elizabeth Wright marrying George Gillott 8.11.1847 at St Leonard, Shoreditch.
Plenty of other Wrights marrying in the same general area around that time whose fathers are named William, but gardeners are thin on the ground, it seems.
Title: Re: Mary Ann Wright .. mystery 4Th great grandmother help please
Post by: Emzunicorn01 on Sunday 14 April 24 15:16 BST (UK)
Who did Susan Wright marry?

I have been looking for marriages of people named Wright with a father named William, who is also a gardener, as Mary Ann's father is.  So far only found Elizabeth Wright marrying George Gillott 8.11.1847 at St Leonard, Shoreditch.
Plenty of other Wrights marrying in the same general area around that time whose fathers are named William, but gardeners are thin on the ground, it seems.

Hi Susan married a Antony Fisk as a minor
Title: Re: Mary Ann Wright .. mystery 4Th great grandmother help please
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 14 April 24 15:19 BST (UK)
Where do you have Robert and Mary Ann on census
Title: Re: Mary Ann Wright .. mystery 4Th great grandmother help please
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 14 April 24 15:23 BST (UK)
Susan Wrights father is 'Late' William Wright occ Carpenter according to the marriage

Witnesses T Wright and Caroline Wright
Title: Re: Mary Ann Wright .. mystery 4Th great grandmother help please
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 14 April 24 15:36 BST (UK)

Her dad according to her marriage certificate is William wright

In 1847 Mary married Robert Salmon in Hackney London together they have 7 children including my 3rd great grandad John salmon born 1853 .


For anyone looking, Freebmd has Roberts surname as Sammons
Marriage Mar qtr 1847 
Sammons    Robert       
Wright    Mary Ann       
Shoreditch reg dist    2   325   

ADDED He signed the register as Sammons
Title: Re: Mary Ann Wright .. mystery 4Th great grandmother help please
Post by: Emzunicorn01 on Sunday 14 April 24 15:37 BST (UK)

Her dad according to her marriage certificate is William wright

In 1847 Mary married Robert Salmon in Hackney London together they have 7 children including my 3rd great grandad John salmon born 1853 .


Yes that changed to salmon  :)

For anyone looking, Freebmd has Roberts surname as Sammons
Marriage Mar qtr 1847 
Sammons    Robert       
Wright    Mary Ann       
Shoreditch reg dist    2   325
Title: Re: Mary Ann Wright .. mystery 4Th great grandmother help please
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 14 April 24 15:38 BST (UK)
It took me a while to find it  ;D.  I have just added to my other post he signed as Sammons
Title: Re: Mary Ann Wright .. mystery 4Th great grandmother help please
Post by: Emzunicorn01 on Sunday 14 April 24 15:38 BST (UK)
Looking at Susan’s children , some of the baptisms records have her down as Susannah
Title: Re: Mary Ann Wright .. mystery 4Th great grandmother help please
Post by: Emzunicorn01 on Sunday 14 April 24 15:39 BST (UK)
It took me a while to find it  ;D.  I have just added to my other post he signed as Sammons

That was a complicated family tree for me  :o
Title: Re: Mary Ann Wright .. mystery 4Th great grandmother help please
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 14 April 24 15:49 BST (UK)
Susan Wrights father has a different occupation to Mary Ann's  :-\
Title: Re: Mary Ann Wright .. mystery 4Th great grandmother help please
Post by: Galium on Sunday 14 April 24 16:15 BST (UK)
Children of William (gardener) and Ann Wright baptised at St John, Hackney.

Elias Heintz 26 July 1815
Thomas 16 March 1817
Ann 31 Dec 1820
Susannah 10 August 1823 (which would mean that she was about 17 when Susan Wright married Anthony Fisk in 1841)

the address given in each case is Newington.

In 1851 census there is a couple named Thomas and Caroline Wright living in Tower Hamlets - Thomas Wright is aged 34 and born in Hackney.

Title: Re: Mary Ann Wright .. mystery 4Th great grandmother help please
Post by: Emzunicorn01 on Sunday 14 April 24 16:26 BST (UK)
Susan Wrights father has a different occupation to Mary Ann's  :-\

I have now found 2 dna matches with Susan in there family tree ( plus 30 more in cluster ! ).. it’s getting more exciting . The area and family names fit
Title: Re: Mary Ann Wright .. mystery 4Th great grandmother help please
Post by: Emzunicorn01 on Sunday 14 April 24 16:27 BST (UK)
Children of William (gardener) and Ann Wright baptised at St John, Hackney.

Elias Heintz 26 July 1815
Thomas 16 March 1817
Ann 31 Dec 1820
Susannah 10 August 1823 (which would mean that she was about 17 when Susan Wright married Anthony Fisk in 1841)

the address given in each case is Newington.

In 1851 census there is a couple named Thomas and Caroline Wright living in Tower Hamlets - Thomas Wright is aged 34 and born in Hackney.

Thank you so much . Did you find Baptist for my relative Mary Ann ? I have found Susan in 1851 census  living with mum , Ann
Title: Re: Mary Ann Wright .. mystery 4Th great grandmother help please
Post by: Galium on Sunday 14 April 24 16:29 BST (UK)

Thank you so much . Did you find Baptist for my relative Mary Ann ? I have found Susan in 1851 census  living with mum , Ann

Not so far. 
I see that Susan Wright is with Thomas and Caroline in 1841 census.
Title: Re: Mary Ann Wright .. mystery 4Th great grandmother help please
Post by: Emzunicorn01 on Sunday 14 April 24 17:12 BST (UK)
Children of William (gardener) and Ann Wright baptised at St John, Hackney.

Elias Heintz 26 July 1815
Thomas 16 March 1817
Ann 31 Dec 1820
Susannah 10 August 1823 (which would mean that she was about 17 when Susan Wright married Anthony Fisk in 1841)

the address given in each case is Newington.

In 1851 census there is a couple named Thomas and Caroline Wright living in Tower Hamlets - Thomas Wright is aged 34 and born in Hackney.

Mary Ann dad occupation was gardiner on her wedding cert. She was living in St John area in 1851
Title: Re: Mary Ann Wright .. mystery 4Th great grandmother help please
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Sunday 14 April 24 17:53 BST (UK)
There is also this marriage

Name   Elias Wright
Gender   Male
Marriage Date   25 Feb 1838
Marriage Place   Saint Leonard, Shoreditch: Shoreditch High Street, Hackney, England
Father   Wm Wright - deceased,  Gardener
Spouse   Sarah Ann Bridge
Register Type   Parish Register

1851
Hackney, Tower Hamlets
Piece   1504, Folio   43, Page number   25
Elias Wright   35   Head, Stoke Newington, Middlesex
Sarah Wright 37 Wife
Elias Wright 12 Son
Henry Wright 7 Son
Rosetta Wright 4 Daughter
Thomas Wright 15 Mo Son

WRIGHT, ROSETTA    mmn   BRIDGE 
GRO Reference: 1847  M Quarter in HACKNEY UNION  Volume 03  Page 205

Cas

Title: Re: Mary Ann Wright .. mystery 4Th great grandmother help please
Post by: Emzunicorn01 on Sunday 14 April 24 18:29 BST (UK)
Children of William (gardener) and Ann Wright baptised at St John, Hackney.

Elias Heintz 26 July 1815
Thomas 16 March 1817
Ann 31 Dec 1820
Susannah 10 August 1823 (which would mean that she was about 17 when Susan Wright married Anthony Fisk in 1841)

the address given in each case is Newington.



In 1851 census there is a couple named Thomas and Caroline Wright living in Tower Hamlets - Thomas Wright is aged 34 and born in Hackney.

Thank you for this looks like Caroline is possibly Mary Ann sibling too. And found a dna match who’s tree has Caroline
Title: Re: Mary Ann Wright .. mystery 4Th great grandmother help please
Post by: Galium on Monday 15 April 24 13:09 BST (UK)
I think Caroline is Thomas Wright's wife.  Thomas (being older than Susan) was probably already married by 1841, so the witnesses to Susan's marriage - T. Wright and Caroline Wright would be her brother and s-i-l.

Thomas Wright 24 bachelor s/o William Wright gardener married Caroline Smith 28 widow d/o Francis Saunders at Walthamstow 18 November 1840.  (transcript only - witnesses not included)

Caroline Wright in censuses gives her birthplace as Dunstable, Bedfordshire.  There is a matching baptism of Caroline Saunders d/o Francis and Martha in 1812, and a marriage at Dunstable in 1831 of Caroline Saunders to Thomas Smith.