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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Armagh => Topic started by: icini on Tuesday 16 April 24 19:37 BST (UK)
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Hello: its been years since I posted on here. I have a family of Whittens(on) from this Tandragee. Joseph married to Eliza Greenaway( no dates) . their sons Joseph ( 1857-1920), Thomas (1851). Joseph married Jane Irvine Martin in Glasgow in 1878. Son George was born in Newcastle England , Charles, Thomas, John and Joseph were all born in Partick Glasgow. Thomas married Elizabeth Cullen but moved to Newcastle. Joseph eventually left his wife and also moved to Newcastle where he married a woman named Mary. I saw a James Greenaway living with Joseph and Jane in 1871 on the census. but he was listed as a lodger. I'm assuming he was a nephew or a cousin. I'm wondering if anyone else has Greenaway or Whitten(on) in their research so I can go farther back. Thanks . Donna
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..Charles, Thomas, John and Joseph were all born in Partick Glasgow. Thomas married Elizabeth Cullen but moved to Newcastle.
From ScotlandsPeople https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
Marriage
WHITTEN THOMAS
CULLEN ELIZABETH
1875
646 / 2 / 54
PARTICK
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Thank you so much!
Donna
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Maybe ….
Birth of James Greenaway, 1869 - informant is Eliza Whitten
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03376/2237552.pdf
Death of Eliza Whitten - 1871, informant Joseph
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1871/020787/7291760.pdf
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Marriage of John Greenaway and Elizabeth Giffen 1859
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1859/09564/5467455.pdf
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thank you so much for these . I never knew of this site!
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Birth of James Greenaway, 1869 - informant is Eliza Whitten
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03376/2237552.pdf
Death of Eliza Whitten - 1871, informant Joseph
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1871/020787/7291760.pdf
James born at Tullyhue [sic] townland. Eliza died there in 1870.
Tullyhugh townland on the outskirts of Tandragee.
https://www.townlands.ie/armagh/orior-lower/ballymore/tullyhugh/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5343929#map=12/54.3800/-6.3820
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Thank you so much
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I can’t see a marriage for Joseph and Eliza though.
Non Catholic marriages are listed from 1845 and Catholic from 1864. I think they would no5 be Catholic, is that right?
Nor can I see a death for Joseph.
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Hi. I also gave it a try and couldn’t find it. I don’t think they were catholic either
Now, when their son Joseph Whitten married in Glasgow they married in the English Episcopal Church, and then eventually Joseph and his brother just moved to Newcastle
At one time he and all his sons were in Newcastle and there are records for Whittens in Newcastle, so I’m wondering if perhaps the journey wasn’t so much Ireland, Scotland England it was actually England Ireland, Scotland, England. Who knows
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I am just posting this for you to note as yet. There may be several Josephs.
Marriage September 1871
Joseph Whitten, widower, Tandragee and Eliza Jane Winter.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1871/11351/8166917.pdf
This Joseph had a son, Robert, I think as this may be Joseph’s death.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1883/06348/4821057.pdf
Eliza Jane Whitton’s death
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1893/06005/4709006.pdf
Joseph and Eliza Jane had daughters too.
It may not be your Joseph though.
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Do you have an occupation for Joseph snr from the Scottish marriage records?
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I thought I saw it mentioned he was a farmer but can't find the document. but who know the varacity of that