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Title: Edith Mary Baker Bicester
Post by: Suzy100 on Wednesday 17 April 24 09:36 BST (UK)
I am trying to find out what happened to Edith Mary Baker after 1911.
Born 17 October 1897 in Bicester. 
Mother Florence Baker - Domestic Servant.
No father listed.
Baptised Bicester 12 Oct 1900
1901 Living with Grand parents Edward and Louisa Baker Hadlands Yard. - Adopted
1911 Living 3 Hadlands Yard, Bicester with Grandparents.  - Listed as Grandchild.
Nothing after this. 
Not on 1921 census or 1939 register.  Cannot find a marriage or death.  Tried 1939 census with birth date and leaving surname out but nothing.
Looked at Migration and there are some of same name going to Canada and America but cannot believe they are her, no DOBs link in either.

I feel as if I have exhausted all options.    HELP please  :)

Title: Re: Edith Mary Baker Bicester
Post by: Spelk on Wednesday 17 April 24 11:22 BST (UK)
What happened to the grandparents and her mother after 1911?
If they were not around to help her she may well have been sent off to one of the colonies as a Home Child.
Were the family Catholics? If so she might have become a nun and changed her name.
Title: Re: Edith Mary Baker Bicester
Post by: Suzy100 on Wednesday 17 April 24 11:36 BST (UK)
Her grandparents were still living at Hadlands Yard in 1921 but on their own.
Her mother also was alive in 1921 living in Bicester with 3 children still at home, but no sign of Edith.  Her mother Florence died in 1925. 
Grandfather died in 1927 and her grandmother in 1948 but no sign of Edith in any census's etc with her siblings.  Her mother had another illegitimate child Hilda in 1899 but she kept her with her and I am assuming that her father was James Smith as Florence was living with him but she only took his name later on. 
No they were not Catholic.
I will look at migration again
Thank you
Title: Re: Edith Mary Baker Bicester
Post by: Suzy100 on Wednesday 17 April 24 11:39 BST (UK)
There is an Edith Mary Baker DOB 1896 who went to Canada just after the 1911 census, age is 15! Says she is a student.  Could be her
Title: Re: Edith Mary Baker Bicester
Post by: jim1 on Wednesday 17 April 24 12:07 BST (UK)
British Home Children Registry has an Edith Baker DOB 1900
sailing on The Sicilian 29/6/1911 from London to Quebec.
Sent by Barnardo's children's home.
From there she went to Hazelbrae, Peterborough Ontario a children's home
for girls run by Barnardo's.
No other information.
Probably not her as Suzy100 has a better match.
Title: Re: Edith Mary Baker Bicester
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 17 April 24 14:57 BST (UK)
From Suzy100's details, there is this possible 1916 census entry in Canada www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KM58-V5F

The UK 1911 census date was on 2 April that year. The Canadian census was on 1 June. Which shipping entry were you looking at? Just that there is a 1911 census entry in Canada for an Edith Mary Baker in the same area as the 1916 entry www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV39-ZQCJ  This gives a possible birth date of Feb 1896. A possible shipping entry for her for 20 May 1911, arriving at Quebec www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2HLH-M5X

Edith from Bicester had a birth date of 17 October 1897 from what you have?

Monica

Title: Re: Edith Mary Baker Bicester
Post by: jonw65 on Wednesday 17 April 24 16:16 BST (UK)
The Bicester Herald has reports of childrens activities at Bicester Parish Church, i.e. Sunday School, Bible Class.
Edith Baker is in a few of these.
12 January 1912
Prizes for attendance and good conduct at the Sunday School gained by various boys, girls, infants
including Girls VII - Edith Baker, Mabel Smith, Nellie Pinchin

A report, 1 August 1913, on the funeral of Mrs. Mary Ann Baker, widow of Henry Baker. Age 89.
The mourners included Mrs. Edward Baker (daughter in law) and Mrs. J. Smith (granddaughter)
Flowers sent by children (and possibly others), including "Edie". Who may or may not be Edith Baker? :-\
Title: Re: Edith Mary Baker Bicester
Post by: jim1 on Wednesday 17 April 24 17:08 BST (UK)
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Which shipping entry were you looking at?
It's from the Library of Canada website which has her down as Edith May which is probably an error
as the shipping list says Mary.
She departed from L'pool May 13 1911 on the Teutonic.
Title: Re: Edith Mary Baker Bicester
Post by: Suzy100 on Wednesday 17 April 24 17:50 BST (UK)
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Which shipping entry were you looking at?
It's from the Library of Canada website which has her down as Edith May which is probably an error
as the shipping list says Mary.
She departed from L'pool May 13 1911 on the Teutonic.

Yes I had the departure on the Teutonic too, that is what made me think she had gone to Canada.  Just seems a bit far for a 15 year old to go!!
Title: Re: Edith Mary Baker Bicester
Post by: Suzy100 on Wednesday 17 April 24 17:53 BST (UK)
The Bicester Herald has reports of childrens activities at Bicester Parish Church, i.e. Sunday School, Bible Class.
Edith Baker is in a few of these.
12 January 1912
Prizes for attendance and good conduct at the Sunday School gained by various boys, girls, infants
including Girls VII - Edith Baker, Mabel Smith, Nellie Pinchin

A report, 1 August 1913, on the funeral of Mrs. Mary Ann Baker, widow of Henry Baker. Age 89.
The mourners included Mrs. Edward Baker (daughter in law) and Mrs. J. Smith (granddaughter)
Flowers sent by children (and possibly others), including "Edie". Who may or may not be Edith Baker? :-\

Yes I had these Sunday school attendance and thought it could be her. 
I also have the newspaper clipping of the funeral of Mary Ann Baker, but admit I had not seen 'Edie'  but this is possibly her. 
Title: Re: Edith Mary Baker Bicester
Post by: jim1 on Wednesday 17 April 24 18:24 BST (UK)
If the 1911 Edith emigrating is her the other 1912 Sunday school Edith must be someone else.
Although she's not on the BHC website it may be she's gone via an assisted passage under the
umbrella of Barnardo's with them acting as chaperone.
Older minors who were unemployed &/or transient were encouraged to emigrate.