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Title: Ship "Catherine" of Glasgow @1854 - 1856.
Post by: jcmac on Sunday 21 April 24 17:33 BST (UK)

I have extracts from The National Archives from BT98/3745 with reference to a ship name "Catherine" of Glasgow ON--- as follows:-
Catherine (of Glasgow) ON----. 198 tons    30/1853   voyage 22.7.1853 - 14.1.1854,
Catherine (of Glasgow) ON----, 198 tons    22/1854   voyage 14.2.1854 -  ...........  ,

I have attempted to identify the continuing record/identity of the ship from the "CrewListIndexProject" and "Lloyds Register of Shipping" but with no success.
I was unable to confirm if it did remain to be given an Official Number - or some other event intervened !?

Over yesterday and today I happened on the CLIP pages of "Ships pre-1855" and reference to a Glasgow ship -,
Catherine
 30/1853. 198tons Registry transferred to Belfast 9/1854. TNA,BT111/29-4,image6,row6.
 
 22/1854, previously Belfast                                           TNA,BT111/29-4,image6,row68.
   9/1854.     9/1854 Catherine (Glasgow 22/54 Belfast) 198tons
 
 22/1854,  Registry transferred to Melbourne 1854.           TNA,BT111/29-4,image6,row69.

Belfast ship -,
Catherine
   9/1854,  previously Glasgow          30/1853                   TNA,BT111/29-4,image6,row6.
   9/1854, 198tons  Registry transferred to Glasgow 22/1854  TNA,BT111/29-4,image6,row68.
 
Can anyone suggest what these details actually indicate and if the Registry to Melbourne has taken the ship abroad; if a change of name occurred: if it remained in UK ???
jcmac.                                           
     

Title: Re: Ship "Catherine" of Glasgow @1854 - 1856.
Post by: jcmac on Monday 20 May 24 12:36 BST (UK)

I have again looked at the "CLIP" entries and in particular "ships pre-1855 named Catherine" and under Glasgow, to the several entries which clearly relate to the 198ton entry.
I have looked at the CLIP entry for Catherine (of Melbourne) ON25857 198tons and noted the details which lead me to accept this is the former Catherine (of Glasgow).
jcmac. 

Title: Re: Ship "Catherine" of Glasgow @1854 - 1856.
Post by: HughC on Monday 20 May 24 18:22 BST (UK)

Does it say who was the owner of the ship?

Title: Re: Ship "Catherine" of Glasgow @1854 - 1856.
Post by: jcmac on Monday 20 May 24 22:11 BST (UK)

Hugh,
The CLIP entry for Catherine (of Arundel) ON 25857 notes the port of registry from Melbourne 1854,
to Falmouth 1860, then Arundel from 1861 >.
From 1865 the owner is recorded as T. Cunningham, Littlehampton (Mercantile Navy List 1865 p.60).
I had a quick look at LLoyds Register of Shipping @ 1853-55 but selecting the appropriate vessel was a little uncertain.
A longer search from 1854 to 1865 in LRofS might lead you to the owner(s) for that period or if it is for a later period the LRofS will give you details.
jcmac.

Title: Re: Ship "Catherine" of Glasgow @1854 - 1856.
Post by: GR2 on Monday 20 May 24 23:22 BST (UK)

Perhaps the newspapers might help. It would seem that there was more than one Catherine. One left Liverpool for Quebec, struck a rock off Wexford  on 25-3-1851 and was abandoned. The coastguard salvaged much of the cargo, sails etc. and there was a subsequent salvage case at the Admiralty.

There is also a ship out of Glasgow called the Catherine Ewan.