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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cumberland => Topic started by: PatPjn on Tuesday 23 April 24 16:11 BST (UK)
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I'm looking for any help with tracing Ann Cairney who is my Great x3 grandmother, and was born in Workington in around 1815. She apparently had her first child, Patrick at the age of 13, and spent most of her life in Preston Quarter, Whitehaven before dying in 1873 in Co. Durham.
I've not been able to find any information about her birth or marriage as these are pre-1837. \any advice on how to get this information would be gratefully received.
Many thanks
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You would need to find a baptism record from church records, same with a marriage if pre 1837.
Who do you think she married and when?
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I think we'd need a little more info to try to help
Was Cairney/ Keaney her married name or her birth name?
If it was her birth name what name was used for her death registration in 1873, Durham?
Her death record would likely show the name of her husband.
Boo
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Welcome to Rootschat Pat :)
Anyone trying to help, think this is the family going by first post. Lots of variations on surname
1851 - Preston Quarter, Cumberland
Piece 2437, Folio 176, Page number 2
All b Workington, Cumberland, except Richard
Richard Mariner 42 Head Ireland
An Mariner 40 Wife
Patrick Mariner 21 Son
Denis Mariner 10 Son
James Mariner 2 Son
1841 -Allerdale above Derwent, Cumberland, transcribed Meler on A - both parents born out of county.
Cas
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Son James birth was registered as Mariner - mmn Cairney
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1861 - Tanfield, Durham ?
Richard Marrens 59 Head Ireland
Ann Marrens 50 Wife Cumberland
James Marrens 11 Son "
Sarah A Marrens 6 Daughter "
MARINER, JAMES mmn CAIRNEY
GRO Reference: 1848 S Quarter in WHITEHAVEN Volume 25 Page 156
MERRIN, SARAH ANN mmn CAIRNEY
GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in WHITEHAVEN Volume 10B Page 486
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1871 Ann Marrin, wid & son James in Usworth, Durham
There is this 1881 that would put Ann death in 1885
Name Ann Marron
Gender Female
Death Age 72
Birth Date 1813
Death Date abt 1885
Burial Date 27 Nov 1885
Burial Place Chester Le Street, Durham, England
FHL Film Number 1894227
Reference ID 65
WILSON, JAMES mmn MARRON
GRO Reference: 1880 D Quarter in CHESTER-LE-STREET Volume 10A Page
1881 - Usworth, Durham
Thomas Wilson 28 Head
Sarah A. Wilson 27 Wife, Whitehaven, Cumberland
Margaret A. Wilson 8 Daughter
Sarah A. Wilson 3 Daughter
James Wilson Son
Ann Morrow 70 Boarder Workington, Cumberland
Richard Morrow 27 Boarder, Whitehaven, Cumberland
John Morrow 26 Boarder "
John & Richard would fit as sons of Patrick from census.
Not locating a marriage or any baptisms for children. It is possible that Patrick was son of Richard only, as there is a large gap between first child & second.
Maybe try Scotland for marriage?
Cas
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Interestingly a Henry MARINER married a Mary CARNEY 24 Dec 1832 Priory Church of St Mary and St Bega, St Bees
(FreeREG)
1851 Mary Mariner is born c 1813 Workington
Cant see a bapt for Mary either
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F/S has a Burial 15 January 1814 Workington, JOHN, Son of PATRICK Carney
Sibling of Ann and Mary??
1841 in Workington we have;
Patrick Cranny 63 Blacksmith born Ireland
Jane Cranny 65 born in County
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You would need to find a baptism record from church records, same with a marriage if pre 1837.
Who do you think she married and when?
Ann married a man called Richard Marrin (which has also been spelt as Marren, Morron, Marin or Marriner), but I can not find a marriage record for them. I have looked in Irish and Scottish records as well as English ones, and it would have predated Civil registration.
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I think we'd need a little more info to try to help
Was Cairney/ Keaney her married name or her birth name?
If it was her birth name what name was used for her death registration in 1873, Durham?
Her death record would likely show the name of her husband.
Boo
Hi
Cairney was her maiden name, her married name was Marrin (also spelt as Marren, Morran, Marin and Marriner). Her Husband predeceased her, and was named Richard. I haven't been able to find a marriage record for them. Ive checked Irish and Scottish records and also looked for irregular marriages, without success
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Welcome to Rootschat Pat :)
Anyone trying to help, think this is the family going by first post. Lots of variations on surname
1851 - Preston Quarter, Cumberland
Piece 2437, Folio 176, Page number 2
All b Workington, Cumberland, except Richard
Thank you for the welcome :)
You're right, this is the family. There are loads of variations on the family name, and I'm trying (Unsuccessfully) to trace Richards birthplace
Richard Mariner 42 Head Ireland
An Mariner 40 Wife
Patrick Mariner 21 Son
Denis Mariner 10 Son
James Mariner 2 Son
1841 -Allerdale above Derwent, Cumberland, transcribed Meler on A - both parents born out of county.
Cas
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Have you read over what I have posted PatPjn?
As she named a Son Patrick could the info I posted by her sibling Mary and Parents?
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Son James birth was registered as Mariner - mmn Cairney
Yes, my ancestor was her daughter Sarah Ann with the same maiden name on her birth certificate
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Interestingly a Henry MARINER married a Mary CARNEY 24 Dec 1832 Priory Church of St Mary and St Bega, St Bees
(FreeREG)
1851 Mary Mariner is born c 1813 Workington
Cant see a bapt for Mary either
Interesting, I wonder if she was a sister. I also wonder if Henry was Richard's brother.
Thank you for that.
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F/S has a Burial 15 January 1814 Workington, JOHN, Son of PATRICK Carney
Sibling of Ann and Mary??
1841 in Workington we have;
Patrick Cranny 63 Blacksmith born Ireland
Jane Cranny 65 born in County
Thats fantastic, thank you. I'll see what I can find out with that branch and post it up.
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Yes it is possible as siblings sometimes married siblings :)
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Another possible.
Marriage
25 Oct 1812, Camerton St Peter, Camerton, Cumberland
Patrick CRANNEY to Jane LAMPSON
Patrick of Workington* and Jane of Camerton at time of Marriage.
A very hard family to trace and I feel for you.
Trish :)
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Another possible.
Marriage
25 Oct 1812, Camerton St Peter, Camerton, Cumberland
Patrick CRANNEY to Jane LAMPSON
Patrick of Workington* and Jane of Camerton at time of Marriage.
A very hard family to trace and I feel for you.
Trish :)
Thank you Trish, they're very hard to trace. Its taken me 20 years to get this far on this branch. Other branches were relatively straightforward.
Many thanks for you help