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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: BAC3 on Wednesday 24 April 24 14:48 BST (UK)
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Hello,
Something of a wild goose chase possibly.
This gentleman's obituary in 1904 states he spent part of his early life in Canada. Certainly there are references to "BLAKEY" in Saskatchewan in the early 20th century which may be family related. However, there is evidence of an Edward BLAKEY, aged 19, arriving in New York aboard the Margaret Evans on 07/08/1862 from England which may fit the profile of a young man destined for Canada. I wonder ::) ??? He died in Blackburn 30/11/1904.
Could anyone help please with any Canadian references??
Thank You,
BAC3
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How old was Edward when he died? Did he marry, in the UK or possibly Canada?
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He was 61 when he died in 1904 and by then he had been married three times, all marriages taking place in the UK!!
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Snippet from his 1904 obit. Should we presume his time in Canada followed his release from prison circa 1860? Did he enlist with the army shortly after?
I suppose the Canadian time-frame is anything circa 1860 to 1889?
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The 1871 Census in Guelph, Wellington County, Ontario has an Edward Blakely, aged 20, born England, with a wife Mary Ann, aged 20, also born in England, with a baby son Edward A., aged 4 months, b. Ontario. The family professes the Baptist faith. He is a moulder by trade.
This young couple seem to have arrived into Canada aboard the SS Medway in August 1869, both aged 19. Also listed with them are an Alfred Blakely, aged 17.
This should provide you with enough info to determine if he is the right individual.
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Snippet from his 1904 obit. Should we presume his time in Canada followed his release from prison circa 1860? Did he enlist with the army shortly after?
I suppose the Canadian time-frame is anything circa 1860 to 1889?
I posted about a possible in 1871 in Ontario, but this one seems to be in England in the 1871 England Census. He is missing from the 1861 English Census. Most of the west was not settled in this timeframe, so he was probably in Ontario or Quebec (Canada West and East at the time).
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Thank you for that information......it could so easily have been correct. However, he married in Blackburn in 1866, his wife dying that same year, possibly as a result of child birth (son Arthur also died 1866). He re-married in 1868, again in Blackburn, his second wife dying in 1896. He married his third wife in 1898.
His "stay" in Canada could have been relatively short.
BAC3
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Snippet from his 1904 obit. Should we presume his time in Canada followed his release from prison circa 1860? Did he enlist with the army shortly after?
I suppose the Canadian time-frame is anything circa 1860 to 1889?
I posted about a possible in 1871 in Ontario, but this one seems to be in England in the 1871 England Census. He is missing from the 1861 Canadian Census. Most of the west was not settled in this timeframe, so he was probably in Ontario or Quebec (Canada West and East at the time).
If he was involved in textiles, more likely in the east, too, am not sure how much was going on at that time. Might be something connected to the US Civil war, with cotton coming via the port of Montreal or Halifax? Just speculating, really don't know.
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Just making sure I have the right man. Parents John & Elizabeth nee' Whitworth. In 1861 he is still at home with parents and his occupation is recorded as Joiner & builder apprentice.
SS
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Thank you, SS,
His parents were father, William BLAKEY (1806-1855), mother Ellen DUXBURY (1806-1873).
I believe the person you quoted was born in Rochdale??
BAC3
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Do you have Edward in the UK 1861 and/or 1871 census?
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1871 ref 4180 11 15
SS
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BAC3, , without wishing to go over the research you have done and wasting your time could you answer the following.
1 Do you have his birth certificate and was his birth officially registered.
2 When he was baptised in 1846 only his mother is named, no father recorded.
3 When he marries 1st and 3rd times who does he name as his father and fathers occupation.
4 Have you yourself found him in 1851/61 census?
SS
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Found him finally in 1851 ref 2258 226 44--named as Coward BLACKEY aged 7 on FindMyPast & Familysearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGRB-VFP
Mother is a widow, poster said William died 1855??
SS
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Please tell me if I'm losing my marbles ???
In 1851 & 1871 Ellen records her birthplace as Hawes.
1861 census ref 3094 93 26 Image clearly reads surname DUXBURY
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7PX-63S
The son fits all details apart from surname?
SS
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SS,
As far as I know Ellen DUXBURY was born in Hawes, North Riding Yorkshire, and she was named by Edward BLAKEY as his mother in his 1859 criminal records.
I have not found an 1861 Census Entry......believing possibly he had migrated to Canada.
BAC3
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SS,
As far as I know Ellen DUXBURY was born in Hawes, North Riding Yorkshire, and she was named by Edward BLAKEY as his mother in his 1859 criminal records.
I have not found an 1861 Census Entry......believing possibly he had migrated to Canada.
BAC3
The 1861 census I found earlier now makes sense. Having been in trouble with the law he changes his surname. His criminal record records his mothers address as Bent Street, Blackburn as per below in 1861 census.
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Bent Street, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Please put me out of my misery, how have you established his date of birth.
SS
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This is his birth registration, address is even Bent Street ;D explains why he used Whitfield in 1861 census.
SS
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Evening SS,
His full birth details can be found on the England & Wales, Christening Index, 1530-1980 courtesy of Ancestry.
BAC3
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Only if you subscribe to ancestry
SS
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Final info only.
Ellen Blakey/Duxbury/Holt nee' Whitfield was baptised as Eleanor Whitfied 6th March 1803 Hawes the daughter of George & Jane Whitfield.
1841 census ref 504 14 20
William Holt 25 Tackler in Mill (As per Edwards birth record)
Ellen 25
Nancy 8 -- baptised 23.11.1834 Peel by Bolton Parents William/Ellen
Margaret 4
Robert 1 -- baptised 20.10.1839 Parents William/Ellen mmn Holt on GRO
James 6 months -- baptised 1.11.1840 Parents William/Ellen. mmn Holt on GRO
William and Ellen part ways between 1841-51 and William sets up home with Elizabeth.
1851 ref 2258 320 45
1861 ref 3112 63 35
William dies 1868 aged 62--burial image records his father as Robert Holt.
SS
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Evening SS
Thank you for all your efforts......they are very much appreciated, especially as the family background for Edward BLAKEY is now well and helpfully documented.
Sadly, the Canada question remains unresolved........Nil desperandum ::) ::)
BAC3