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Title: Finding death date, or graves of my GG Grandparents in Malone
Post by: meaty on Wednesday 24 April 24 17:30 BST (UK)
Hi all

Just wondering if anyone can help. I have recently re created my tree on familysearch as the fan chart is so good and it shows any gaps in information so well. One gap is the birth and death dates of my GG Grandparents in Malone, Belfast. Their names are Robert Walker born around 1876 and Sarah Philpot born around 1877. In particular I would like to know where their grave might be. They were married in St
John's church so I'm guessing they could be in there. Are there any inscriptions to be had anywhere online? I'm quite far away and have young children so a visit wont happen for quite some time unfortunately.

Thanks
Title: Re: Finding death date, or graves of my GG Grandparents in Malone
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 24 April 24 17:45 BST (UK)

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One gap is the birth and death dates of my GG Grandparents in Malone, Belfast. Their names are Robert Walker born around 1876 and Sarah Philpot born around 1877.

Marriage (1898) gives her father as Samuel Philpot (deceased).

Possible birth record - Sarah Ann Philpot born 4 September 1877 at Ballyfinaghy, Drumbeg (not far from Malone). Father Samuel ( a labourer).   MMN Hamilton
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/03002/2100281.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/belfast-upper/drumbeg-antrim-portion/malone/ballyfinaghy/


Title: Re: Finding death date, or graves of my GG Grandparents in Malone
Post by: meaty on Wednesday 24 April 24 20:25 BST (UK)
Thank you so much Kilt, that's her birth sorted then!
Title: Re: Finding death date, or graves of my GG Grandparents in Malone
Post by: meaty on Wednesday 24 April 24 21:55 BST (UK)
This page has some history to St John's, Malone http://malone.connor.anglican.org/history_page/history.htm

...but no mention of graves or cemetary so maybe it never had a graveyard. Did members of this church get buried in one of the belfast cemeterys, and does anyone have any idea which one?

Title: Re: Finding death date, or graves of my GG Grandparents in Malone
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 24 April 24 23:03 BST (UK)
Possibly them.
https://www.belfastcity.gov.uk/births-deaths-and-ceremonies/burial-records/search-for-a-burial-record
There is a Sarah Walker aged 41 in 1919 and a Robert Walker aged 68 in 1943 both Upper Molone in plot J226 City Cemetery
Find Robert and click on the plot number, others in the same plot.

Sarah’s death cert doesn’t give her address but it’s on the grave record
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1919/05164/4424415.pdf
Title: Re: Finding death date, or graves of my GG Grandparents in Malone
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 24 April 24 23:13 BST (UK)
Son Allen born day before Sarah’s death
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1919/01258/1522552.pdf
Title: Re: Finding death date, or graves of my GG Grandparents in Malone
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 25 April 24 08:07 BST (UK)

1911 census
House 48 in Malone Road (Cromac, Antrim)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Cromac/Malone_Road/165482/

Robert Walker a garden labourer. Five children born, four still living.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001483219/


Title: Re: Finding death date, or graves of my GG Grandparents in Malone
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 25 April 24 09:00 BST (UK)
Robert Walker married again in 1920 to Margaret Robinson-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1920/09256/5351022.pdf
Title: Re: Finding death date, or graves of my GG Grandparents in Malone
Post by: meaty on Friday 26 April 24 20:51 BST (UK)
Wow thanks so much guys, that's amazing, never would have thought I'd get so much info.

Very sad though mind, I guess if he was buried with Sarah then they were reunited, albeit in time.

A great start to the weekend.
Title: Re: Finding death date, or graves of my GG Grandparents in Malone
Post by: meaty on Sunday 28 April 24 11:50 BST (UK)
Hi if I wanted find evidence of Robert and Margaret living together then the 1921 census would be my go to but from what I  glean online the 1921 was held back until 1926 and records not available to the public until Jan 1927.

Was watching videos of city cemetary last night, quite a place
Title: Re: Finding death date, or graves of my GG Grandparents in Malone
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 28 April 24 12:08 BST (UK)
Hi if I wanted find evidence of Robert and Margaret living together then the 1921 census would be my go to but from what I  glean online the 1921 was held back until 1926 and records not available to the public until Jan 1927.
Bad news for 1926 census for Northern Ireland counties, I'm afraid.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-22848416
Title: Re: Finding death date, or graves of my GG Grandparents in Malone
Post by: meaty on Sunday 28 April 24 14:20 BST (UK)
Damn that is bad news :(