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My Great Grandfather was Thomas Steele born 1824 in Renfrew,Scotland . He emigrated to Canada in 1852. I would like info on his parents James and Mary(Kean)Steele
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Welcome to rootschat :)
Baptism for a Thomas Steel at ABBEY Parish, RENFREWSHIRE, SCOTLAND (Church of Scotland)
on 8th February 1824
Abode Eaglesham, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Parents James Steel and Mary Kean
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You say he went to Canada in 1852, do you have him or his parents on census prior to this
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James Stiel married Mary Keen 20 December 1806, Abbey Renfrewshire Scotland.
Ref: transcriptions -ancestry
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Where are you getting the names of his parents?
If they married 1806 and didn't have a child until 1824 that's a really long time.
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The baptism I posted names his parents
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Yes I saw that but marrying 1806 and no children till 1824 seemed as though it was the wrong family.
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Hopefully the next time OP comes on here they will answer our questions so we can progress with this. :) :)
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Welcome to Rootschat, R C Steele! Maybe we can steer you onto the right path with a little more info added. (Important to know if there is a proven connection to the parents / location you've suggested for Thomas)
adding: reply to posts from amondg - Rosie's find isn't unusual (Plus this was the posted request) ...Once you've done this as often as we have, many outcomes are seen as possible. Grandmas giving birth to the uncles of her children's children. Found one gal from Scotland married as as she turned a teen, and gave birth to 16 live children in over 2 1/2 decades. My husband's ancestor was 70 when he fathered his last child with his generation younger second wife.
Wondering if those are the correct parents as marriages in that era didn't often have parents listed...I found a tree on Family Search but there is no proof of connection to the couple stated. Thomas & Margaret died in Manitoba, so may have found the info on the death cert. altho the database shows both parents as unknown, whereas it is usually left blank so you have to pay for the cert. They both did die in the RM of LANGFORD MB, where George Henderson Steele married in 1900. Also they found him in 1851 so he immigrated earlier.https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/KC1Q-2CG
There may be a clue in that he worked as a carpenter as well as farmer...Also may be clues in the children's middle names: McKay, Henderson, .. They had twins so were the Steel or Dunn families likely to bear twins??? Their grandchild Matthew Bramwell Steele had fraternal twins.
also 1861 He says born 1825
Janet 7 William 5 Matthew 3 - listed as died at birth, but that must have been Thomas 1
https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Home/Record?app=census&IdNumber=45571517
1871 He says b. 1827
Thomas 4 John M 2 George 2
https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Home/Record?app=census&IdNumber=45571517
1881 says b. 1819 farmer & carpenter (scroll down)
https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Home/Record?app=census&IdNumber=19453767
Thomas & Margaret - Noting that she's 43 with a 14 mo. old baby!!!
Jeanette 27 William D. 25 Maggie 16
Twins* John McKay Steel 12 George Henderson Steel 12
Archibald 9 Harry Steel 1
1891-Found them in Marquette Manitoba - but Margaret says she's a widow...Can't see him in 1891
https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Home/Record?app=census&IdNumber=24027518
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Sorry...this is the correct url for the 1871 census
https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Home/Record?app=census&IdNumber=41469358
also here is the full 1851 where he's already with Margaret ...and shows perhaps a younger brother John Steel b.1825 Scotland
1851 https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Home/Record?app=census&IdNumber=23744551
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Ronald Clarke Steele we really need you to give us some answers to our questions when you are next on here so that we can help you with your query. :) :)
You say he went to Canada in 1852, do you have him or his parents on census prior to this
. I see he has now been found in Canada in 1851, do you have him in Scotland census in 1841
Where are you getting the names of his parents?
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The FamilySearch Tree is chalk full of different contributors...He may have assumed that the parents were proven by the submitter...
Not sure if the first reply the same day may have been a turn off...I had it removed as it wasn't necessary to the plot, but he may have already been put off by it.
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I did notice that first reply which has now been removed, it was hardly welcoming to someone just joining. Hopefully OP will realise that we do want to help with their search and come back to us
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If Thomas Steele was born in1824 and his parents James and Mary Steele were married in 1806 maybe he was not the 1st child. Also the 1861 Canada census shows he was married in 1852 to Marget so he may have emmigrated to Canada earlier than 1852 as I stated.
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:D Welcome back! I forgot it was the beginners board we were replying on. We can ask for this thread to be moved to the Scotland board, but it would be beneficial to you if we could have it be in the proper sub-board. If you have proof that these are your ancestors from documents, a family bible, etc. it will be moved to Renfrewshire.
It isn't a good idea to pin one's hat on the wrong ancestor, as your ancestral tree will be wrong. Also he may be older as the 1851 shows a younger John Steel b. Scotland. here is the full 1851 where he's already with Margaret ...and shows perhaps a younger brother John Steel b.1825 Scotland
1851 https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Home/Record?app=census&IdNumber=23744551
Let us know so that we can dig in further for you to see if we can prove more on both sides of the pond! J.J. in Canada
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I cannot help you regarding Thomas Steele parents but my wife has a connection to his family.
Her great aunt on on her maternal side Lavina (Vina) Hosler married his son John Martin Steele on the 18 Nov 1908 at Gladstone Manitoba. I am posting Thisin case you did not have the information. They had 7 children.
Jim
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OP left this message via the 'report to moderator' function yesterday
MyGreat Grandfather left a small diary when he passed away he left a small diary in which he y.He stated his parents were James and Mary(Kean) Steele. That he was born in Renfrew,Scotland in 1824 and came to Canada in 1852.He married Margret Dunn(no D
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OP has left this message in reply to jim234j
My Grandmother was Lavina Estella (Hosler)Steele,She married John Mark King Steele
Ronald - please use the the blue reply button so that your responses appear on the thread