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Matthew Moody was my 5xGt Grandfather.
He was married to Ann Martin in South Cave on 23 March 1801.
He features on the 1841 census (HO107; Piece: 1217; Book: 10; Folio: 20; Page: 33) where he is listed as age 82, a tailor in Market Place, South Cave. He is listed as being born in Yorkshire.
Matthew died in 1845 (1845 J Quarter in BEVERLEY Volume 23 Page 7) listed as age 87.
Please could someone see if they can find a baptism for Matthew?
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I have found a baptism for an Elizabeth Moody:
Elizabeth, daughter of Matthew Moody of Faxfleet in the parish of South Cave, December 7th 1755.
A sister, maybe?
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Not what you were asking for, but may be of interest to you, for your tree?
Yorkshire Gazette, 14th May 1853
On March 11th, at Demerara, West Indies, aged 22, James Mailes, son of the late Mr. Thomas Foster, and grandson of the late Mr. Matthew Moody, of South Cave, in this county.
Added:
1830, 4th June, at Hull H. T., by Banns
Thomas Foster, Labourer, his mark &
Jane Moody, Spinster, her mark
In the Presence of:-
William Thomas's mark
Elizabeth Thomas's mark
1803, 4 Sep'r / 9 Oct'r Bapt/ Birth at South Cave
Jane Dr of Matthew Moody & Anne his Wife, Taylor South Cave
Mark
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Hull Daily News, 13 December 1856
Beverley—December 8th, much respected, aged 83 years, Ann, widow of the late Mr Matthew Moody, South Cave.
York Herald, 22nd October 1842
On Wednesday the 26th inst., at the church of St Lawrence, York, by the Rev. J. Croft, Mr Wm. Aitkin, of this city, to Dianah, youngest daughter of Mr. Matthew Moody, of South Cave.
Yorkshire Gazette, 31st August 1850
On June 4th, at Bombay, East Indies, aged 33, Diana, Wife of Sergeant George Watson Ingram, master turner of the grand arsenal at that place, and youngest daughter of Mr. Matthew Moody, of South Cave, in this county.
Possible Baptism for George Watson Ingram :-
1822, 27th June at St Mary & St Nicholas, Beverley, Yorkshire
George Watson Son of Joseph & Celia Ingram, Abode Minster's Moor-gate, Beverley, Miller
1815, 1st January, at Beverley, Yorkshire, by Banns
Joseph Ingram, Bachelor &
Celia Watson, Spinster
In the Presence of:-
Thomas Fallowfield ; Elisabeth Robinson
(All signed)
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1845 Burial Register for South Cave, County of York.
Matthew Moody, Abode South Cave, Buried April 20th, Age 87, by H. F. Inman, Curate.
Perhaps widening out your line and seeing who was present at the Marriages (as witnesses) and also any Wills (if any) for this family etc., might give you some clues about family origin?
Also the Informant on some Death Certificates might be a relative.
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Matthew Moody was my 5xGt Grandfather.
He was married to Ann Martin in South Cave on 23 March 1801.
Twenty 3d March 1801, by Banns
Matthew Moody of this Parish, Widower &
Anne Martin of y same Spinster
Both signed and she signed Ann Martins
In the Presence of:-
Octavia Mantle
Thos Glasby
Sarah Day
James Milner
Comments:
1) By Banns (so no Marriage Licence at the Borthwick Institute, York, to check)
2) Matthew Moody a Widower, so Moody has been married before.
3) In the Marriage Register there are 8 marriages in the Book opening and the names of those present as witneses are not repeated in the other 7 Marriages, which suggests those present are family and/or friends, neighbours or even co-workers, to the couple?
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Possible First Marriage, but Matthew did not sign himself? However, it does say "Taylor"
Marriage Register 1786 21st November at Hull H. T., by Banns
Matthew Moody of this Parish Taylor &
Elizabeth Beecham of the same Parish Spinster [she signed]
In the Presence of (wits both signed) :-
James Smith
Thomas Beecham
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Mark
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Hi Mark,
Thank you so much for taking the time to look all of this up! I'm really grateful for all of the information - it will really help pad out the tree.
Emma
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'The Diary of Robert Sharp of South Cave, Life in a Yorkshire Village, 1812-1837', edited by Crowther & Crowther, OUP 1997 ..... gives seven mentions of Matthew/Matty/Merchant Moody and one of his son Mails. --- but no baptism.
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Hello Emma
Matthew Moody had a lot of children with Ann(e) at South Cave and he had also been married before as well.
Bringing surviving children forward into the Census, you might be fortunate and find another elderly Moody relative or a Cousin in a Census Household, with a Birthplace?
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Thomas Foster married Jane Moody, but as the James Mailes, Grandson, 1853 newspaper Death notice says Late Mr Thomas Foster, so Thos Foster who married Jane Moody died early.
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John Moody born South Cave (about 1820 from memory).
Married Doncaster, 11th July 1844 after Banns
John Moodie, full age, Blacksmith, South Cave, Father - Matthew Moody, Tailor.
Eliza Credland, full age, Spinster, --- , Corn Market, Father - Thomas Credland, Labourer.
In the Presence of us :- Emma Battie ; Charles Franklin
Only checked 1851
The "Visitor" and "House Servant" with John Moody, 30, born South Cave, in the 1851 Census at 9 Providence Row, Beverley, Yorkshire may be a Credland relative it seems, but spelt with an extra e ? ...
1851 Harriet Creedland, Visitor, U, 19, House Servant, born Lincolnshire, Wroot,
Same Birthplace as John Moody's Wife, Eliza Moody (nee Credland), born Wroot.
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People in Census Households are sometimes relatives?
Mark
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A baptism by that probable previous 1786 marriage (at Reply #5) ?
Hull, St Mary Lowgate, 26 December 1787
Baptism
Mary Ann, D of Matthew Moody Taylor
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Mark
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Children of Matthew Moody (& Ann), bapt South Cave:-
1802 / 1803 Jane Moody [looks to have married Thomas Foster, see Reply #2]
1804 / 1805 Rebecca Moody
1809 Matthew Moody
1811 Alice Moody
1813 Maria Moody
1815 Martha Moody
1817 Diana Moodey [Father surname spelt Moodey in the Register]
1820 John Moody [married Eliza Credland, Reply # 8]
I was looking for the baptism of Diana, then the wife of George Watson Ingram (Ingram, possibly bapt Beverley, Yorkshire), Diana age 33 when she died in Bombay, East Indies, in 1850 (per Yorkshire Gazette), married twice it seems - Reply # 3.
Added: not checked burials.
Mark
Added:
Sheffield Independent, 13th July 1844
On Thursday, at Doncaster, Mr John Moody, blacksmith, of South Cave, to Miss Eliza Credland.
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'The Diary of Robert Sharp of South Cave, Life in a Yorkshire Village, 1812-1837', edited by Crowther & Crowther, OUP 1997 ..... gives seven mentions of Matthew/Matty/Merchant Moody and one of his son Mails. --- but no baptism.
Thank you! Some interesting snippets - just wish the book was easier to get hold of!
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Further to sugarbakers Reply #7.
Matthew Moody was described as a Tailor and a Merchant, Market Place, South Cave, Yorkshire.
Yes, he had been married before to Elizabeth, mentioned in Reply # 5.
The Son of Matthew Moody, Matthew Moody, Junior, was also known as Mails Moody.
In 1831 the Diary suggests he tried to sell his house, but I cannot find any online newspaper advert (British Newspaper Archive)?
If Matthew Moody did own his house Freehold when it was eventually sold (or the ownership was possibly transferred at death), there ought to be a record in the Deeds Memorial Registry at the Treasure House Archives in Beverley, Yorkshire.
Enquire first that they cover South Cave, as there is more than one Registry of old Deeds for Yorkshire
There should be a record of when he acquired the house too, but expect a lenghty search in the Indexes to get the Vol Letter/Number ; Page No. and Entry No., to enable ordering of the entry in the Deeds Memorial Register.
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Original Diary at Beverley Archives
zDDX216
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/7cc9b7ad-7f0b-4edf-857c-64054d70e96f
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If the House was Copyhold and had been transferred to Moody, this type of transfer would have been transferred by the Manor Court instead and those Transfers are usually in the Manor Court Rolls (if they survive for the place).
Newspapers can be useful as they sometimes mention the type of Tenure.
Mark
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If the House was Copyhold and had been transferred to Moody, this type of transfer would have been transferred by the Manor Court instead and those Transfers are usually in the Manor Court Rolls (if they survive for the place).
Newspapers can be useful as they sometimes mention the type of Tenure.
Mark
Hello Emma
It looks like the property was Copyhold as the following refers to a Surrender and Admission ... so the property transfer would be in the Manor Court Rolls.
Hull History Centre
Cat Reference - U-dp-42/1
Surrender and Admission (Manor of West Hall) 26th April 1804
Bennitt Maile, formerly of South Cave but now of Grounthorp, county Lincoln, gent. and wife Ann to Ann wife of Matthew Moody of South Cave tailor House built by Bennitt Maile, on the site of a cottage called an undersettle, in Market Place of South Cave.
(Document purchased in 1947 from Mrs Sleight of Hull)
1774, 17th March, South Cave, by Licence
Bennet Maile of this Parish Bachelor &
Ann Martin of this Parish Spinster (mark of).
Present:- Will sonley ; Robert Landen (or Lauden?)
He signed Bennett Maile.
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1819
Regarding Grainthorpe, Lincolnshire, England, there is a Bennett Maile, Bachelor, marriage to Ann West.
Present: Sarah Martin ; Mary Day
We have had a Day witness before at a Marriage in 1801 See Reply # 5
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I was trying Mails (exact) and wondered where it came from.
This explains why the name Maile or Mails was adopted as an alias name for Matthew Moody's Son Matthew Moody, Junior.
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Added:
Manor property documents possibly in U DDBA Papers of the Barnard Family of South Cave 1401 to 1945 (Hull History Centre)