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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => England => Hampshire & IOW Lookup Requests => Topic started by: nikkithomasnikki on Thursday 14 November 24 16:39 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for more details on the marriage of my 4 times great grandparents John Stray and Elizabeth Ward in 1816, I have found their banns but obviously too early for a marriage certificate. I am trying to find a way to identify the next generation back or even where John Stray was born as the 1841 census says he was not born in county, so in which case where? There is a John Stray on HMS Mars at the battle of Trafalgar in 1805 from Devon but I cant find a record of his birth or a link to 'my' John Stray to confirm they are the same person. My John Stray was in the navy so it is possibly the same person.
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https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=887274.
Where were their banns called
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Yes posted on Devon board hoping for help to look for his birth but the marriage was in Hampshire hence posting here. I am looking for any help to be able to move forwards.
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They married at St Mary Portsea
04 Mar 1816 - transcript and image on FindMyPast
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Banns were called in St Marys Portsea Hampshire
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See my last post :)
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I think we were posting at the same time, looks like I will need to renew my subscription to Find my past but not sure whether there will be any further information as it wont be a marriage certificate in 1816, the banns don't give much information, I was hoping for a father's name to help narrow down if he is the Nottingham family or from Devon
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No further information, that was a waste of money :( need to see if there is anything else I can look up whilst the subscription is running.
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You did not need to renew a sub on FindMyPast, apparently you can pay individually for images
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I was too eager to look into that but dont worry I will make use of the subscription I am sure
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John was a superannuated rigger at the time of his death. He had worked in the dockyard at Portsea and was apparently owed money at the time of his death. See this record here:
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9941508
He was recorded as a mariner in the register for his children's baptisms. He may no longer have been in the Royal Navy. The 1841 census is quite specific for others in the area when they are in the Royal Navy - it says Navy in the occupation column.
I wonder if he stayed ashore for a steadier income. Also he cannot have been away at sea for long periods of time given the age gaps between his children.
From your Devon thread, I see that the sailor who was at Trafalgar was likely to be the son of John and Agnes. John junior was baptised in 1776 and I see that John and Agnes had a son named Philip - just as John and Mary did in Portsea. It seems a working hypothesis that the Devon man is your John Stray, but was not good at remembering how old he was.
Nell