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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Waterford => Topic started by: Suemagoo on Wednesday 20 November 24 22:03 GMT (UK)

Title: Request for Assistance
Post by: Suemagoo on Wednesday 20 November 24 22:03 GMT (UK)
I am helping a friend research his Paternal side of the family.  His Grandfather was Michael Nugent a Good's Foreman and his wife Bridget O'Mahoney or Mahoney. They lived on 3 Emmett Place in Waterford in 1922 when they had a daughter (my friend's) Mother. I can't find any other information on other children of Michael and Bridget or if they always lived in Waterford.  They were of the Catholic faith but I don't know what parish to query so I'm at a loss on how I can go back further and get more information on the Grandparents.  Can anyone advise where else I could look.

Greatly appreciated and thank you.
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: Neale1961 on Wednesday 20 November 24 22:08 GMT (UK)
The daughter named Margaret born to that couple in 1922
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1922/01148/1479910.pdf

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Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: Neale1961 on Wednesday 20 November 24 22:14 GMT (UK)
A daughter Annie born in 1915
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01366/1563187.pdf

A daughter Mary born in 1916

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1917/01318/1544789.pdf

A daughter Bernadette born in 1918
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1918/01270/1526821.pdf

Margaret's parents marriage in 1914
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1914/09859/5580921.pdf
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Wednesday 20 November 24 22:21 GMT (UK)
Marriage in 1914 for Michael & Bridget:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1914/09859/5580921.pdf

Daughter Margaret Mary:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1922/01148/1479910.pdf

Mary Bridget:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1917/01318/1544789.pdf

Bernadette:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1918/01270/1526821.pdf

Annie:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01366/1563187.pdf

Possibly Michael Nugent in 1911:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Waterford_No__5_Urban/Mulgrave_Road/671261/

Possibly Michael and his family in 1901:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Faithlegg/Faithlegg/1766328/
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: Neale1961 on Wednesday 20 November 24 22:44 GMT (UK)
Birth for Michael NUGENT 1888 Waterford
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1888/02513/1931745.pdf
Parents William Nugent (Sailor) and Anastasia Moran
(Note - Mary Moran the grandmother is informant)


Marriage for William and Anastasia in 1885 (Michael's parents)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1885/10877/5973027.pdf
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 20 November 24 22:45 GMT (UK)
Bridget died 1948 with age given as 62, so born c1886, if Michael is around the age the 1911 census found looks good.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1948/04568/4207103.pdf
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 20 November 24 22:52 GMT (UK)
Michael died in Kempton Bedford England when working in a brick factory in 1947, the Irish Examiner says he was 59 and son of Capt William Nugent and the late Mrs Nugent Faithlegge.

Buried Faithlegge.

There is more in the newspapers which explains why he was working in England I’ll send a PM when I get a chance to read through it all.
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: Neale1961 on Wednesday 20 November 24 23:04 GMT (UK)

Death for William Nugent (sea captain)  in 1903
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05668/4596575.pdf

Death for Anastasia Nugent (nee Moran) in 1941
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1941/04709/4257564.pdf
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 21 November 24 01:24 GMT (UK)
Not easy to pinpoint Bridget O’Mahony in the census.

I think this might be her in 1901 in Kilsheelan, which is her address when she married
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Kilsheelan/Main_Street/1712287/


This would be her mother and brothers again in 1911 still in Kilsheelan.
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Kilsheelan/Kilsheelan_Town/819342/


This might be Bridget working as a domestic servant in 1911. When she married she was a ‘house maid”.
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kilkenny/Kilcullihan/Christendom/534563/
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: Suemagoo on Thursday 21 November 24 01:50 GMT (UK)
My most heartfelt thanks for all this information!!! My friend is going to be so excited to learn about his ancestors thanks to all of you. Happy Canadians👍☘️🇨🇦❤️
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 21 November 24 02:00 GMT (UK)
…. But, ….. not finished yet ......

Some of the children seen on the census - all born Kilsheelan to Parents James Mahony (labourer) and Bridget Cleary

William born 1883 Kilsheelan (parents James Mahony and Bridget Cleary)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02732/2004822.pdf

Bridget born 17 June 1885 Kilsheelan (parents James Mahony and Bridget Cleary)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02644/1975025.pdf

Michael born 1887 Kilsheelan (parents James Mahony and Bridget Cleary)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1887/02568/1949650.pdf

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ADDED
And some of their other children,  born earlier in the marriage, in Clerihan --
Patrick born 1872
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03244/2188964.pdf

James born 1873
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1873/03169/2162721.pdf

Ellen born 1876
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1876/03065/2123880.pdf

John born 1878
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02961/2084949.pdf


Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 21 November 24 02:01 GMT (UK)
MARRIAGE of James Mahony and Bridget Cleary
24 Jan 1870 Powerstown / Clonmel Tipperary
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1870/11376/8176962.pdf
Both bride and groom living at (employed at?) Fort William


Death for James Mahony in Kilsheelan in 1888
His widow Bridget the informant.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1888/06184/4768021.pdf
He was aged 60. His wife quite a bit younger, or she has taken some years of her age in the census?
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 21 November 24 12:07 GMT (UK)
As you know ages can vary a lot on records, Captain William Nugent's age on death cert is 45 in 1903 so birth year circa 1858.
There are quite a few records for a William Nugent born Waterford birth in the 1850s in the Shipping agreements and crew lists. http://census.nationalarchives.ie/search/cl/home.jsp they may not all be him.
What I can't see is his last ship the Elizabeth Cowman but the Eagle in 1901 is one that looks good.
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/search/cl/details.jsp?id=IRE/CREWLISTS/00652778

The newspaper report of his death Munster Express Feb 21 1903 says they were sailing from Waterford for Cardiff with timber, they were anchored at Glasshouse waiting for the tide when William went forward to make sure the anchor was clear he suddenly fell back and died.
He leaves a very large family. His widow lives at Faithlegge Lodge (Well the bad print looks more like Bodge) and is a sister to Mrs Joseph O'Shea, Francis Street. The vessel was owned by Captain Shea and Messrs Murphy
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: Suemagoo on Tuesday 26 November 24 20:07 GMT (UK)
Once again thank you so much for this information. Very sorry, slow in responding, but was sick with flu and haven't been on computer for a few days.

Wishing you all the best over the holiday season and I have lots of great information to work on for my friend.