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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Wiltshire => Topic started by: sft456 on Sunday 08 December 24 21:22 GMT (UK)
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Hi
Youngest child Margaret Frances Maud MARTIN was dau of John Evan Hamilton-MARTIN & Charlotte Ethel LONG m 1889 Bicester
b Boyton, E Coulston, Wilts 10.7.1895 d after 1931) ?
Lived with family in Westport, Wilts in 1901 (as Margaret then disappears
She was an Executor/Beneficiary in her brother Richard Hugo Walter Robert Martin's Will 1931
Probably never m, but can't find a d or other C
Any assitance will be appreciated
Thanks
sfr456
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Name Margaret Frances Maud Martin
Death Date 18 Jan 1984
Death Place Shaw, Melksham Wilts
Probate Date 21 Feb 1984
Probate Registry Winchester
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Can be found on 1939 as Margaret F M Martin with the date of birth you quote. She's with her parents and brother in 1911 as well
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Think this is the death registration
Madge Martin
Age 88
Birth Date 10 Jul 1895
Registration Q1 1984
Trowbridge Vol 23 p 2432
Added - she also appears to be on 1921 as Madge. Place of birth matches
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Can be found on 1939 as Margaret F M Martin with the date of birth you quote. She's with her parents and brother in 1911 as well
Many thanks
Any chance of the 1911 details, I only have FS (doesn't appear there)
I don't know whether a reason for her brother Hugo's early departure aged 39 on 9.2.1931 can be found - he assumed unmarried. Also his occupation (if available) Lived at 35 Westminster Mansions, London SW1 at d in 1931
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1911 : https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X722-ZD6
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You'd probably have to get his death certificate to get a cause of death - which might be a challenge as his probate register entry says he died in Paris.
Might explain the two months between his death and his funeral in Shiplake, Oxfordshire
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There's a death announcement in The Times of Mar. 31, 1931. Refers to him as Roy and says "it is specially wished there should be no mourning" A second announcement on 2 April informed people that a memrial service (in Sutton Vemy) and funeral service (Shiplake) were to be held that day
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Thanks again
Poss suspicious circumstances regarding Richard's d, so he might have been detained in France pending investigations. Presumably he was returned to Engand by ferry or poss plane (money being of little object)
The Martin's (Bank) certainly knew how to live (and the money to go with it) - 11 servants in 1911 for 4 people incl a German governess for 2 teenagers aged 19 & 15!!!
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Link below to Richard Hugo Walter Robert MARTIN's French Death Certificate:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tj5/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tj5/)
you'll need to go to page 11 and it's 2nd from bottom on righthand page
All a bit vague about place and time of death!
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Transcription of death certificate:
A une date que le déclarant n’a pas pu préciser mais qui paraît remonter au neuf février mil neuf cent trente-et un, est décédé, en un lieu qui n’a pas pu être déterminé, Richard Hugo Walter Robert MARTIN, né à Exmouth, comté de Devonshire (Angleterre) le vingt-et-un mai mil huit cent quatre-vingt-onze, sans profession, domicilié à Londres, Angleterre, fils de John Evans Hamilton MARTIN, décédé, et de Charlotte Ethel LONG, sans profession, sa veuve, domicilié en Angleterre, célibataire. Le corps a été transporté Place Mazas. Dressé le trente-et-un mars mil neuf cent trente-et-un, dix heures, sur la déclaration de Louis CHABAT, trente-trois ans, employé, domicilié Place Maza, qui, lecture faite, Edmond Eugène MALLARD, adjoint au maire du douzième arrondissement de Paris.
Rough translation:
On a date that the declarant could not specify but which appears to go back to the ninth of February, nineteen thirty-one, Richard Hugo Walter Robert MARTIN, born in Exmouth, county of Devonshire (England) on the twenty-first of May, eighteen ninety-one, without occupation, residing in London, England, son of John Evans Hamilton MARTIN, deceased, and Charlotte Ethel LONG, without occupation, his widow, residing in England, single, passed away at an undetermined location. The body was transported to Place Mazas. This record was drawn up on the thirty-first of March, nineteen thirty-one, at ten o'clock, upon the declaration of Louis CHABAT, thirty-three years old, employee, residing at Place Mazas, which, having been read, was signed by Edmond Eugène MALLARD, deputy mayor of the twelfth arrondissement (district) of Paris.
Note: sans profession can mean a number of things such as unemployed, housewife etc
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If you want to see if any clues are given in his British Death Certificate, it is listed in the Index to Consular Deaths 1931-1935 as follows:
Martin, Richard H.W.R.
Age: 39
Consulate: Paris
Vol: 25
Page: 152