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Title: What happened to Charles Marshall? - Benwell
Post by: mulberry-rose on Thursday 12 December 24 22:11 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I need some help locating what became of Charles Marshall, as I’ve managed to trace the rest of his siblings. He was born 1861 in Mitford to Thomas Marshall and Ann Cook (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/197702307/ann_marshall).

The last census I have him at is;
1881 Benwell Lodge, Benwell, Newcastle
Charles Marshall, 21, single, born Morpeth, groom & domestic servant

He disappears after that. He’s not the death in Gateshead Mar 1888 as an obituary shows that is a Charles J Marshall.

Any help is greatly appreciated  :)
Title: Re: What happened to Charles Marshall? - Benwell
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 12 December 24 23:13 GMT (UK)
Have you checked outgoing passenger lists in case he emigrated?

USA & Canada were popular places so you could look for census info here

US 1900 & 1910 censuses

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1325221
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1727033

Canadian 1901 & 1911

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1584557
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/2143998


Title: Re: What happened to Charles Marshall? - Benwell
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 12 December 24 23:29 GMT (UK)
Have you also ruled out the 1890 death in Sunderland
Title: Re: What happened to Charles Marshall? - Benwell
Post by: mulberry-rose on Thursday 12 December 24 23:31 GMT (UK)
CaroleW

Thanks for the suggestion about emigration records  :)  I will check them out later once I’ve ruled out all I can in Northumberland/surroundings.
Title: Re: What happened to Charles Marshall? - Benwell
Post by: mulberry-rose on Thursday 12 December 24 23:32 GMT (UK)
Have you also ruled out the 1890 death in Sunderland

I didn’t see this one, thank you  ;)
Title: Re: What happened to Charles Marshall? - Benwell
Post by: mulberry-rose on Thursday 12 December 24 23:38 GMT (UK)
Well this is intriguing!  :o

Title: Re: What happened to Charles Marshall? - Benwell
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 12 December 24 23:57 GMT (UK)
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/ca1b4059-8504-4212-a4a8-7b730557b601

Title: Re: What happened to Charles Marshall? - Benwell
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 12 December 24 23:59 GMT (UK)
Had a wife

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/ec5a0cba-8183-488c-8ac2-28edffdf97fb
Title: Re: What happened to Charles Marshall? - Benwell
Post by: Radcliff on Sunday 15 December 24 06:31 GMT (UK)
Bishopwearmouth cemetery
Charles Marshall
abode Cumberland St,
a gardener,
aged 29 years
found Roker North Sea
Buried May 1st 1890,
service performed by the Rev GD Scott,
ward 2, section a, grave 1846, consecrated ground,
newspapers report him as  a coachman in service at Gosforth who came with his wife to Sunderland ,
Title: Re: What happened to Charles Marshall? - Benwell
Post by: Radcliff on Sunday 15 December 24 07:37 GMT (UK)
Mary Ann Marshall,
31 Cumberland St
born circa 1864 burial Sunderland 1891,Durham records online,
free BMD Mary Ann Marshall aged 27, death registered June 1891,
I can look this up later if you need more information
Title: Re: What happened to Charles Marshall? - Benwell
Post by: mulberry-rose on Thursday 26 December 24 17:48 GMT (UK)
Sorry for the later response, I hadn’t seen this until now

mckha489

Thank you very much for the articles. That gives a lot more context now. Poor Charles  :(

Radcliff

This information brilliant, thanks for the burials. I think I’ll put a memorial on FG.
It doesn’t seem Mary lived very long after Charles, maybe his death was a factor.

By the articles it looks like they had children together, but none survived.
Title: Re: What happened to Charles Marshall? - Benwell
Post by: Radcliff on Friday 27 December 24 07:52 GMT (UK)
Bishopwearmouth cemetery
April 6th 1891,
Mary Ann Marshall,
aged 27 years,
widow of Charles Marshall,coachman deceased,
abode 31 Cumberland St,
ward a/e grave 2880 consecrated ground,
Title: Re: What happened to Charles Marshall? - Benwell
Post by: mulberry-rose on Friday 27 December 24 08:27 GMT (UK)
Radcliff

Thank you. Interesting about the abode as one article has her living at ‘Green Street’. I guess that must’ve been temporary and she moved back home. Not even a year after Charles died.  :(

Died of pneumonia from her GRO record.
Title: Re: What happened to Charles Marshall? - Benwell
Post by: Radcliff on Friday 27 December 24 08:51 GMT (UK)
was Green Street her brothers address
Title: Re: What happened to Charles Marshall? - Benwell
Post by: Radcliff on Friday 27 December 24 08:56 GMT (UK)
I just reread the article Mary Ann her brother lived at 31 Cumberland Street Mary stayed there then Charles joined her, Mary  then had briefly gone to stay with friends at 6 Green Street ,it appears Charles was very ill before his death,
Title: Re: What happened to Charles Marshall? - Benwell
Post by: Radcliff on Friday 27 December 24 09:54 GMT (UK)
A little bit of information that may interest you,

Mary Ann's brother named his son after Charles Marshall,
Bishopwearmouth cemetery
Charles Marshall Charlton,
aged 8 months,
buried November 26th 1886,
father John Robson Charlton, a green grocer,
abode 31 Cumberland St
place of burial ward 1 , section a, grave 3873

Durham records online, John Robson Charlton death,22 King Street, 1931 born circa 1863
this makes it so much easier to pin point the correct Charltons, in 1871, Cumberland St , Henry Charlton aged 30 a glass founder, born Newcastle Upon Tyne, his wife Elizabeth aged 30 born Sunderland, children John Robson aged 9, Mary Ann aged 7, both born Sunderland , in 1881 John R and Mary Ann are still with Dad Henry in Cumberland St .Mum Elizabeth died 1876 at Cumberland St,
Title: Re: What happened to Charles Marshall? - Benwell
Post by: mulberry-rose on Friday 27 December 24 12:02 GMT (UK)
Thank you for all this information, it is very helpful.

I’d found that 1881 census of Charlton’s with Mary Ann couldn’t confirm it until now, so that’s good. Poor family certainly went through a lot.

I’ve now made memorials for Charles and Mary Ann. Nice to be able to connect them  :) https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/277674871/charles_marshall

I do wonder if this was their son;

MARSHALL CHARLES   CHARLTON
GRO Reference 1886 M Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE Volume 10B Page 5

Charles Marshall buried 6 Mar 1886 St John’s Westgate abode 139 Stanhope Street

MARSHALL CHARLES    0
GRO Reference M Quarter NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE Volume 10b Page 31