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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: Freya Ellingsen on Friday 21 March 25 10:37 GMT (UK)
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Looking for any info on the Mckenzie family below.
Father: John McKenzie b.1879 Glasgow, Scotland d.?
Mother: Mary Dickson/Dixon b.1880 Glasgow, Scotland, d.?
Children:
Helen: b. 27 Mar 1914 Glasgow, Scotland d. 27 Jan 2007 Geelong, Victoria, Australia.
Robina: b. 1915 Glasgow, Scotland d.?
Elizabeth: b.? m.?Johnstone d.?
Mary:b.? m.Patterson d.?
Thanks
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To look for Scottish BMD info you need to use www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
It is a pay per view site via purchase of credits - not a subscription site. The index is free to search. You can look for the parental marriage & download a copy of the marriage cert which will give you their parents names & mothers maiden names
There is a McKenzie/Dickson marriage 1907 Partick
The 1911 census is only available on Scotlands People - you need to purchase credits to view the entry to establish children born between 1907-1911
Searching the births index from 1907 shows 4 births in Partick with mmn Dickson.
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Thank you.
I took a look takes time to discover as never used before.
Can u tell me what what Patrick in the RD name means is it a district??
DICKSON
MARY
MCKENZIE
JOHN
1907
646 / 3 / 338
Partick
U mentioned that there is a entry with four children being born to them what section did u find that in?
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Just seeing as I found them
Children at Partick
John 1908 possible death same year
Elizabeth 1909 married ? Partick John Johnson 1931
Mary 1911- 1987 died Glasgow Martha St mmn Dickson age 76 m?1936 Hillhead Alexander Cairn Paterson
Helen 1914
Robina 1919 no mother's maiden name
Ciderdrinker
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Beauty!
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Can u tell me what what Patrick in the RD name means is it a district??
It's Partick not Patrick and it is a district in Glasgow.
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Just to avoid any confusion - there is a 1989 death for a Robina Howat/ Robina Syme aged 75 with a mmn Dickson.
I thought it was your Robina & she had married twice but there is a Robina Howat birth 1915 in Dumfries - mmn Dickson
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John McKenzie marriage.
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Just to avoid any confusion - there is a 1989 death for a Robina Howat/ Robina Syme aged 75 with a mmn Dickson.
I thought it was your Robina & she had married twice but there is a Robina Howat birth 1915 in Dumfries - mmn Dickson
I have just visited and elder who can just remember that Robina died of
TB just before the end of WW2 her husband is said to of made it home sadly to find his wife was deceased..... :'(
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John McKenzie marriage.
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I cannot make out the section of parents it looks like Johns mother Helen re married and I cannot see her maiden name??
Many thanks for that info ...
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Freya Ellingsen, have you viewed the 1921 census ref 644/22 44/20 Partick to establish where John birth was recorded. He is aged 36 = 1885 as per his marriage in 1907 aged 22 = 1885.
Trying to establish his mother's maiden name.
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Trying to establish his mother's maiden name.
I can't decipher it either.
Use the 'Report an issue' button to ask SP to re-scan the certificate because her maiden name is illegible.
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Think I might have cracked this--please pull apart if wrong.
John McKenzie was born c1884/5 as was aged 36y 6mths in 1921 born Govan.
Birth--see image
Mother Helen Forrester McClure born 2.4.1865
1871 census-- Helen Algie, aged 6 -322 Parliamentary Road Glasgow
1878 marriage
MCCLURE MARGARET & ALGIE JOHN 1878 644 / 9 / 36 Kelvin
1881 census --Helen aged 16, Book Folder 17 High St, Parish Glasgow St Paul
Marriage
MCKENZIE DONALD & MCCLURE HELEN FORESTER 1882 644 / 10 / 294 Anderston
Marriage
DONNELLY ANTHONY & MCCLURE HELEN 1890 644 / 10 / 444 Anderston
DONNELLY ANTHONY & MCKENZIE HELEN 1890 644 / 10 / 444 Anderston
DONNELLY ANTHONY & ALGIE HELEN 1890 644 / 10 / 444 Anderston
1891 census -- Helen Donnel,--aged 26-114 Douglas St
Anthony O Donnell 36 Head
Helen Donnell 26 Wife
John A M Donnell 6 Son (possibly John Algie McKenzie Donnell/O'Donnell)
Margaret Aljie 50 Mother-in-law
1901
Anthony Donnelly 45 Head
Ellen Donnelly 36 Wife
John McKenzie 16 Stepson (Step Son) occupation RIVET BOY
Maggie Donnelly 4 Daur (Daughter)
Margaret Algie 55 Mother-in-law
Rachel McCallum 29 Boarder
John McCallum 10 Boarder
Probably Helen in 1937
Name Helen M'k Algie ( Helen McKenzie Algie)?
Residence Year 1935
Address Langside Road, Cathcart
Residence Place Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Parliamentary Division Glasgow
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added--deaths
MCKENZIE JOHN ALGIE aged 66 Male 1951 644 / 14 / 739 Partick
DONNELLY HELEN FORRESTER aged 89 Female 1955 644 / 10 / 72 Milton
ALGIE MARGARET aged 56 SWEENEY Female 1903 646 / 3 / 123 Partick
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Possibly the death of Donald McKenzie.
MCKENZIE
DONALD
38
M
1886
022 / MR / 245
Marine Return
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Well thank you v much.
It will take a bit to take it all in, Im a bit confused at the moment but I will keep on reading it until I get it lol! You are a gem, I spent last night trying to see what her second marriage name was and I came up with McClue but I see you are correct!
Cheers,
Fran
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Just putting a little order into my post.
Margaret McClure born c 1846/7-----mother of Helen Forrester McClure
Helen Forrester McClure born 1865-1955-----mother of John Algie McKenzie
John Algie McKenzie 1885-1955---married Mary Dickson.
All marriages as previously posted.
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Well I thought Id got it all but after your last message Im still confused even more!
"Margaret McClure born c 1846/7-----mother of Helen Forrester McClure"
MCCLURE MARGARET & ALGIE JOHN 1878 644 / 9 / 36 Kelvin, so was this another marriage of Helens mother? Where does the Forrester come into it? McClure a maiden name of Margaret or another marriage?
Hope I'm not confusing u...
Fran
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The situation appears to be:
Margaret McClure c1845/6(maiden name) has a daughter( Helen Forrester McClure in 1865) No father recorded. I suspect the "Forrester" could be the surname of the father.
Margaret McClure then marries John Algie in 1878--BUT-- it appears Margaret & Helen are using the Algie surname in 1871 census.
Helen is not with her mother in 1871 census.
When Helen marries for the second time she is a: a widow formerly McKenzie
b: born as McClure
c: previously known as Algie after mother's marriage
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U are a wiz!
Thanks for sorting this out..
Cheers
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If you are able to invest £10 for 40 credits on Scotlands ( 6 credits per image)people you could download ALL the references I have posted, the marriage of Margaret McClure to John Algie will take you back another generation as well. Enjoy your research.
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This is the marriage ref of Margaret McClures parents. Elizabeth surname recorded as Swiney, at death Margarets mothers maiden name was Sweeney.
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MCCLURE
JOHN
ELIZABETH SWINEY/FR2830 (FR2830)
15/08/1836
559
80 / 380
Abbey
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Top sleuthing😀
From this wedding date I see there is possible sibs for Margaret.
Fran